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Paknews views on Jerry Falwell!

Comments posted on Paknews.com
http://www.paknews.com/editorials.php?id=1&date1=2002-10-09
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I have doubt about Falwell has a jewish back ground or is a fanatic fundamentalist christian, for passings these hate comments, shame on you FALWELL (Amm)

I wish he would have been in the UK when this interview was taped. If he had have been then he could have been arrested and charged with inciting racial & religious inducement leading to violent disorder. We Muslims should do the same to him as we did to salman rushdie and issue a Fatwa. (fiaz hussain)

I totally agree with you article re Jerry Falwell. It is time for the peacemakers in the Muslim, Hindu, Christian community to be heard. Personally, I do not think that Falwell is Christian, for his rhetoric is anti Christ's teachings. Patricia Doyle

ROHAIL KHAN: Special thanks to PakNews who raised voice against this bastard's comments. The coward leaders of Islamic world remained completely silent over this bastard's comments. Inshallah, falwell will die a death of a pig.

He and his gang of devout 70 million christian terrorists are working to get rid of the jews. Watch out jews, who you gonna run to for help. Nabi

Jesus Christ! This baptist minister doesn't even follow the teaching of his own Jesus Christ. You will burn in hell falwell, you're probabaly a child molester as well. Nabi

TCE Note: actually, it was Muhammad who took the virginity of a child - and it is Islamic countries who continue to follow his paedophilic example - see (right-hand column) Ayatollah Khomeini's rules!

Beee:  Try to understand this. America has freedom of speech. I will defend any Citizens right to use it; this includes Jerry Falwell George Bush and ALL Citizens. Also I have freedom of speech. I dont agree with Fallwell at all!!! but I will defend his right to express his thoughts and freedom of speech. Americans are very accustomed to hearing different points of view.

Tee: Falwell is an idiot, has been for a long time. I am curious as to why this riles folks up. I am not supposed to be outraged by Osama, or Al - Jezeera, right? I will protest CBS when an equal # of Muslims protest Al - Jezeera's promotion of hatred, and distortion of facts. I will condemn the idiot Falwell when I hear a thunder of critism about Muslim radicals. That is fair, isn't it?

Fiaz: While I disagree with Falwell's comments it is actions such as Mr. Hussains that skew the West's image of Islam. Issuing a death sentence to someone for speech, however hateful, is what makes Islam appear so intolerant and backward. Same with stoning women, cutting of hands and making kite flying and music [illegal?]

Bob: Voltaire said, "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I defend to the death your right to say it." Maybe this principal should be invoked here. Falwell's comments are so absurd they only serve to make him look foolish. Also, your point that it's often reported that bin Laden is Muslim - duh! He uses that fact as the basis for his terrorism. It's quite relevant to the story.

Linda K. : I totally agree with this article. We should all come together under a banner of Peace. "Judge ye not, lest ye be judged".

TCE Note: read the history of Islam's 'peace initiatives' - Saddam Hussein is an excellent example of their duplicity and Israel is crazy to deal with Yasser Arafat! This is also an ignorant view of Biblical judging - Christians are called to judge righteously!

A Ali: Can anyone in Falwell's flock to give me an example of a violent man cammanding the respect and following that Mohamed pbuh does. Can potentially the largest religion be borne from a man of violence. Historically most wars and destruction have been bestowed on the world by Followers of Jesus and Moses. They misinterpret Mohamed as they did with Jesus and Moses.

Maham: The Holy Prophet is not who Falwell thinks he is. It is true that he did participate in wars but in most of them, the muslims were only trying to defend themselves. Is it wrong trying to defend yourself from an enemy? I doubt that a bigot like him knew that.

bjohnson : Let us not forget the bloodshed "Christianity" imposed on the world! There are religious fanatics in ALL religions. Usually the extreme right, fundamentalist types, like Mr. Falwell. It is sad that CBS allowed such hate radio. We have enough of that in the world. I suppose Mr. Falwell could be considered a terrorist, a thought terrorist!

Chris Wilson (chris.s.wilson@worldnet.att.net): I am an American and I wanted to let you know that Jerry Falwell represents a small group of uneducated idiots. Most of Americans do not believe that same as he does and also think he is an idiot. He does not know what he is talking about and should never be allowed to talk on TV again. On behalf of the sane Americans, I apologize for all this stupid man has caused.

Anthony :  His comments show the ignorance of the Christian Right in America when one considers that millions more people in the world have been killed by Christians than by Muslims. Millions more have been enslaved by christians than by Muslims - the Prophet Mohammad certainly was no "terrorist" if you compare the crimes of Christians to the crimes of Muslims - AND I SAY THIS AS AN IRISH CATHOLIC!!

TCE Note: a typical group of comments full of error and, first, confusing the spread of a religion (by 'a man of violence'!) by the use of violence and terror in which millions have been enslaved or killed!  The only 'Christian' religion (mistakenly referred to as Christian by many - even in orthodox evangelical circles) to approach this kill rate is the Roman Catholic cult which terrorised the world with the Inquisition and Jesuit murderers and formed the cut-throat 'Crusaders.'  Thus, both major religions of the world  - Roman Catholicism and Islam - were originated and promulgated by 'men of violence.' Falwell and his 'fundamentalists' cannot compete with these murderers.  But who surpassed all of these murderers? The atheistic communists, Lenin and Stalin, who embraced the 'Darwin' cult of evolutionism!  Sadly, many follow the ignorant view of attributing the title 'Christian' to many who have never truly embraced Christ as Lord and Saviour and will be rejected by him at the final judgement (Matthew 7:15-23) - and this includes the Popes!

James Rosen: [Concerning 'he sounds jewish']  How dare you equate a religious zealot like Jerry Falwell to the entire Jewish religion as a whole. By making such an ignorant and racist statement, you degrade yourself and your cause. Your comment concerning his apparent 'Jewish' background is no more enlightened, it simply makes you sound like an ignorant racist. You are no better than Jerry Falwell.

MP: . . . (I particularly want to stress this) unlike what the article says, the TV networks have uniformly said AGAIN AND AGAIN that there are billions of peace loving Muslims who disagree with Usama. To suggest that the networks haven't done so is mind bogglingly false.

MZ:  Falwell, is a supporter of 'Zionist terrorism'...he thinks that Jews have a right to the occupied land and that they can kill, harm and kick innocent palestinians out of their homes, if they must, to get it. He's falsely accusing somone else of terrorism when he, himself, is supporting terrorism...that should give everybody an idea of what sort of person he is.

TCE Note: another ignorant view of the real Islamic agenda behind the 'Palestinian Problem' and of the true ownership of the land! And also revealing Islam's underlying and unrelenting bigotry and hatred towards the Jews.

'Some Old Guy': I wish the people that post here complaining about Falwell would spend as much time worrying about "hate speech" in their own local mosques and madrasas. Ask yourselves how Christians or Jews would have been treated in Moslem countries had 19 Christians or Jews crashed planes in a Moslem country last year?

Harish Iyer:  Jerry Falwell may have been wrong in attributing those remarks to Islam as a religion, but many Muslims are doing their best to prove him right.

Patrick O:  You have to consider how primitive and violent Islamic countries do appear to Westerners such as myself - and these tirades and rioting and "off with his head" speeches only re-enforces an impression of a culture which is repressive and violent -- and it is not a "small minority" - it is even "moderate" contries, such as Pakistan, that have Muslim majorities.

TCE Note:  they are, of course, merely using the reactions and methods of their heritage as taught by Muhammad in his Quran

Miah: Give him time and he will follow his predecessors. Most of them end up in some seedy motel wih their trousers ariund their ankels with a whore or with a choir boy. This is the same man of "peace" wo wnats to expidite armageddon in collusion with the Zionist anti-christ.

TCE Note: Islamic terrorist * stated that all methods are viable. Could this be the reason some believe Armageddon is close and why the USA wants to ensure Saddam Hussein doesn't trigger World War III with 'weapons of mass destruction'?

Asswi Pe: I look at this message board and what's the first thing I see? Someone decrying Falwell's hateful comments and saying he must be Jewish. Are American's the only people who see the irony of a statement like this? Jew-haters are no better than Muslim-haters. Go practice your goose-stepping. I guess Germans don't have a monopoly on racist fascist sentiment.

Abu:  He and his Zionist Christian alliance are the biggest supporter of War and transfere of Palestinians. Its his support that keeps the Palestinian (Muslims as well as Christians) enslaved by Israel. So he is even worse that the people he supports.

TCE Note: History proves that the Islamic nations created the Palestinian 'problem' and that they propagate it to keep up the pressure on Israel

Raza:  I agree freedom of speech is necessary but only as long as it does not promote hatred and/or does not contain serious distortions of the truth. Afterall, a mullah in Pakistan making derogatory statements about Jesus(hypothetical) would be called fundamentalist and probably asked to apologize by christians.

TCE Note: Not hypothetical! Islam is the ONLY religion in the world that doesn't just deny the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ - it also denies that He is the Son of God - so every copy of the Quran (and every Muslim that believes it) insults our Saviour.

Elizabeth Thompson:  Micky Mouse is an insulting remark against the Americans in Europe & Jerry Falwell is a Micky Mouse. Mohammed forgave his sworn enemies after the victory of Mecca & if he was a terrorist he would never have forgiven them. Terrorists kill; they never forgive. Mohammed was an Angel on this earth & Falwell is a Micky Mouse; he should go to a psychiatric clinic.

TCE Note: Muhammad did not 'forgive' all his enemies - he routinely tortured and slaughtered them and only those who 'converted' in terror were spared.  As our history pages show, many refused the kind offer of convert or die - and they were slaughtered!

Patricio: And the Muslim hypocrites continue to insult non-Muslim religions of the world and kill innocent non-Muslims with Muslim made bombs. It truly is time for a world wide civil war to settle the "Muslim Problem". We need to take this war to the Mosques which occupy non-Muslim lands.

Farhan:  I read that lot of non Muslim are blaming that Muslim are killing non Muslim, I know it wrong to kill any innocent person but I don''t understand why these educated intelligent people and their governments don''t accept a single demands of Muslims world ""Live Us Alone"". Muslims want to live their life as they like they don''t want your interference.

TCE Note: It was Islam which invaded Asia and Europe as Muhammad decreed - and which continues to migrate to other countries with only one intention - to follow 'the prophets' example and install 'Allah's' rule over all nations.

Bapu: They are doing exactly the opposite of what the Prophet preached and practised. Abu Sufyan was the greatest enemy of Islam and never gave up a chance to denigrate the Prophet. But when the Prophet had his chance, he not only pardoned him but everyone who took refuge in Abu Sufyan's house.

TCE Note: Some accounts say Abu Sufyan had an incredibly rapid 'conversion' and grovelled in abject, cringing apology for mercy before Muhammad after he learned the Prophet's victorious army was advancing on Makkah! Another version recounts: 'The Prophet, in honor of the recommendation made by his uncle, offered protection to Abu Sufyan. Then the Prophet said, "Isn't it time for you to know the creed: La ilaha illa-Allah?!" Abu Sufyan replied, "Why not?" Then the Prophet further asked him, "And is it not the time for you to confirm that I am the Messenger of Allah?!" Abu Sufyan said, "I have still some doubt about it." At this response, 'Abbas rebuked Abu Sufyan: "Fie upon you, fellow! Confirm his prophethood or you will be killed!" So Abu Sufyan recited both declarations of the creeds of confirmation, and with him Hakim ibn Hizam and Budail ibn Warqa' also accepted the Islamic creed.' This is still how Islamic terrorism 'converts.'

kashif and shery:  If a man with low moral character casts any remarks on any widely respected personality it reviels his own low mean, dirty character and cheap thinking. I strongly condemn any type of rubish like this against any relious leader and specialy for our PROPHET (PBUH) who is the greatest man of the whole universe.And if i got hold of this barking guy I am not gona spare him.

Rajaman
: Its a pity that people use religions to become so self righteous. And also to committ hate and violence in the name of God. It does not matter if you know the Bible or Quoran....it is how you conduct your life that tells how close to God you really are. Think this one through. Fallwell is just another religious self appointed idot.

William: Muslims Love Jesus and Moses, really? Jesus was not a prophet like Mohammed claims to be... he was God incarnate.

G. Ryback: Why do muslims respond with such anger, hostility and violence to such nonsense as Falwell's? Christians, for instance, tolerate much of what can only be described as sacrilege regarding Christ and christianity without riots, killing, fatwas etc. Why do muslims not respond with reasoned arguments, criticism and peaceful protests?

TCE Note: Because it is not in the Islamic psyche to reason, for their spiritual heritage from Muhammad is Satanic violence and the 'father of all lies' seeks the destruction of the whole human race - but particularly Jews and Christians, just as Islam proves by her long-standing agenda! 

Amir Qureshi:  McVeigh was as much Christian as Mohammed Atta (Supposedly the key 9-11 planner)was muslim. Sad part is few know about McVeigh's Religion but in case of Muslims....Their crimes are connected to their Religion...not to their personal deeds. So Falwell is the High Holy Priest of Christians representing every christian and McVeigh was Christian Crusader...who turned on his own!

Deborah: McVeigh said he was Agnostic & that science was what he believed in. His parents were Catholic but he rejected that faith at a young age. He was no more a Christian than any of you who have converted to other faiths. Just as Bin Laden doesn't speak for all Muslims, Falwell does not speak for all Christians. No Christians I know even listen to him, let alone agree with him!

TCE Note: see answer on previous page

scott schumacher: McVeigh a Christian? "Alan" writes that there is no Christian equivalent of Bin Laden, but of course there is. Hitler considered himself a life-long Christian. (Catholic). Jeffrey Dahmer (a murdering cannibal)was a born-again Christian who said grace before eating his victims. I could go on, but the point is that there is good and bad in any group.

TCE Note: Hitler's agenda to place racist identifying marks on the clothes of Jews to make their persecution and murder more easy was taken from the Roman Catholic cult (as we explained, Catholics are not Christians) - and Islam is guilty of the same. The thorough examination of Dahmer's descent (available on Satellite and Cable) into murder and cannibalism - see his father's testimony - shows he rejected Christian views and thought of himself as his own god!  Again the point is being missed - neither the action of Hitler or Dahmer are compatible with the life of one claiming to be a Christian,  but murderous terrorism is entirely consistent with the teachings of Muhammad and his Quran!

Jos Gani: Allahs people speak against the evil?  While we do not support the attacks on America, I must wonder why so few of our own leaders speak against the tower bombings.

Abu Bakthiar:  The bottom line here is : - All nations must have a fair democratically elected government - Allow people of all religions to live in there lands peacefully - Give equal rights to women - Complete freedom of press - Separation of mosque and state. Religious Laws have no place in any goverment. Then, people like Jerry Falwell will not get any platform.

TCE Note: There is not one genuinely democratic Muslim nation in the whole world! The only democracy in the Middle-East is Israel - the nation the Muslims desire and vow to totally destroy!
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The above is just a small cross-section of the comments, but portrays a reasonable view of the most expressed opinions

A Charter for the Male Abuser, Adulterer, Paedophile, and Rapist!

Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriage, Divorce  and Relationships 


A woman may legally belong to a man in one of two ways; by continuing marriage or temporary marriage. In the former, the duration of the marriage need not be specified; in the latter, it must be stipulated, for example, that it is for a period of an hour, a day, a month, a year, or more. 

A
man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.

A father or a paternal grandfather has the right to marry off a child
who is insane or has not reached puberty by acting as its representative. The child may not annul such a marriage after reaching puberty or regaining his sanity, unless the marriage is to his manifest disadvantage.

Any girl who is of age, that is, capable of understanding what is in her own best interest, if she wishes to get married and is a virgin,
must procure the authorization of her father or paternal grandfather. The permission of her mother or brother is not required.

A marriage is annulled
if a man finds that his wife is afflicted with one of the seven following disabilities: madness, leprosy, eczema, blindness, paralysis with after effects, malformation of the urinary and genital tracts or of the genital-tract and rectum through conjoining thereof, or vaginal malformation making Coitus impossible.

If a wife finds out after marriage that her husband is suffering from mental illness, that he is a castrate, impotent, or has had his testicles excised,
she may apply for annulment of her marriage.

If a wife has her marriage annulled because her husband is unable to have sexual relations with her either vaginally
or anally, he must pay her as damages one-half of her mehryeh (her price) specified in the marriage contract. If the husband or wife annuls the marriage for any of the above-mentioned reasons, the man owes nothing to the woman if they have had sexual relations together; if they have not, he must pay her the full amount of the dowry.

A Moslem woman may not marry a non-Moslem man; nor may a Moslem man marry a non-Moslem woman in continuing marriage, but
he may take a Jewish or Christian woman in temporary marriage. 

A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage
does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband's permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. 

A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated. 

If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty
possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her. 

A man who has contracted a continuing marriage may not leave his wife for so long a time as to allow her to question the validity of the marriage; however,
he is not obligated to spend one night out of every four with her. 

A husband
must have sexual relations with his wife at least once in every four months. 

A woman who has been
temporarily married in exchange for a previously established dowry has no right to demand that her daily expenses be paid by her husband, even when she becomes pregnant. 

A temporary marriage, even though only
one of convenience, is nevertheless legal. 

A man must
not abstain from having sexual relations with his temporary wife for more than four months. 

If a father (or paternal grandfather) marries off his daughter (or granddaughter) in her absence without knowing for a certainty that she is alive, the marriage becomes null and void as soon as it is established that
she was dead at the time of the marriage. 

To look upon the face and hair of a girl who has not reached puberty, if it is done without intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one is not afraid of succumbing to temptation, may be tolerated. It is however recommended that
one not look upon her belly or thighs, which must remain covered. 

To look upon the faces and hands of Jewish or Christian women, if this is not done with intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one does not fear temptation,
is tolerated. 

A woman must hide her body and her hair from the eyes of men. It is highly recommended that she also hide them from those of pre-pubic boys,
if she suspects that they may look upon her with lust. 

If a man is called upon, for medical reasons, to look upon a woman other than his wife and to touch her body, he is permitted to do so,
but if he can give such care by only looking at the body he must not touch it, and if he can give it by only touching, he must not look at it. 

A woman who becomes pregnant as a result of adultery must not have an abortion. If a man commits adultery with an unmarried woman, and subsequently marries her, the child born of that marriage
will be a bastard unless the parents can be sure it was conceived after they were married. 

A child born
of an adulterous father is legitimate. 

The best person to breast-feed a newborn baby it its own mother. It is preferable that she not ask to be paid for such service, but that her husband pay her for it of his own free will. If the sum the mother asks for is greater than that charged by a wet nurse,
the husband is free to take the child from its mother and turn it over to the wet nurse.   

A man who repudiates his wife must be of
sound mind and past the age of puberty. He must do so of his own free will and without any constraint; therefore, if the formula for divorce is spoken in jest the marriage is not annulled. 

A woman temporarily married, say, for a month or a year,
has her marriage automatically annulled at the end of that time, or at any other time when the husband releases her from the balance of her engagement. It is not necessary for this that there be any witnesses, or that the woman has had her period. 

A woman
who has not yet reached the age of nine or a menopausal woman may remarry immediately after divorce, without waiting the hundred days that are otherwise required.

A woman
who has had her ninth birthday, or who has not yet entered menopause, must wait for three menstrual periods after her divorce before being allowed to remarry. If a woman who has not reached her ninth birthday or who has not entered menopause gets temporarily married, she must, at the end of the contract or when the husband has released her from part of it, wait two menstrual periods or forty-five days before marrying again. 

If the father or paternal grandfather of a boy has him
marry a woman for a temporary marriage, he may prematurely cancel it in the boy's interest, even if the marriage was contracted before the boy reached the age of puberty. If, for example, a fourteen-year-old boy has been married off to a woman for a period of two years, they may return her freedom to the woman before this time has run its course; but a continuing marriage cannot be broken in this way. 

If
a man repudiates his wife without informing her of it, and continues to meet her expenses for a period of, say, a year, and at the end of that time informs her that he got a divorce a year earlier and shows her proof of it, he may require that she return to him anything he has bought or given her during that time, provided that she has not used it up or consumed it, in which case he cannot demand its return. 

If a child dies within the mother's womb and it is a danger to her life to leave it there, it must be extracted in the easiest way possible;
it can, if need be, cut into pieces; this should be done by the woman's husband or a midwife. 

A woman who wishes to pursue her studies toward the end of being able to earn her living through respectable work, and who has a male teacher, may do so if she keeps her face covered and has no contact with men; but, if that is inevitable, and religious and moral tenets are thus undermined,
she must give up her studies. Girls and boys who attend co-educational classes in grammar schools, high schools, universities, or other teaching establishments, and who, in order to legalize such a situation, wish to contract a temporary marriage may do so without the permission of their fathers. The same applies if the boy and girl are in love but hesitate to ask for such permission.

Where did Khomeini get his doctrines from - the Koran!

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