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Scott Arrigoni - 28

17th January, 2005

Subject: where did you get this quote???

'Mary is co-redemptrix of the human race ... because with Christ she ransomed mankind from the power of Satan. Jesus redeemed us with the blood of His body, Mary with the agonies of her heart …… The church and the saints greet her thus: 'You, O Mary, together with Jesus Christ, redeemed us.' ... God has ordained that no grace will be granted to us except through Mary …… No one will be saved or obtain mercy except through you, O Heavenly Lady ... No one will enter heaven without passing through Mary as one would pass through a door …… O Mary, our salvation is in your hands.'


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TCE replies:  22nd January 2005


Dear Scott

thank you for taking the time to contact us in reference to this 'quote'.

These are a
combination of quotes taken from many Roman Catholic sources. Many more exist. The Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano regularly reports the Pope's speeches (such as the 1/1/97 edition) which yielded this quote of him supporting Rome's dogma that Mary is co-redemptrix with Christ, having united 'with her Son in His redemptive sacrifice...[as] her Son's faithful co-worker for the salvation of the human race.'

Catholicism's Christology is heretical!


Catholicism's Christology is heretical. It denies Christ's exclusive role as mediator between God and man, making Mary 'co-mediatrix/co-redemptrix' and denying the exclusivity of His redemptive work. These many quotes are entirely consistent with past and present Papal opinions and Vatican II which credits Mary with a perpetual 'salvific role ... she continues to obtain by her constant intercession the graces we need for eternal salvation' and denies the sufficiency of Christ's redemptive work by declaring that the redeemed must, in addition to Christ's suffering for them upon the cross, suffer for their own sins here and/or in purgatory, etc.

Pope John Paul II, whose personal motto is totus tuns sum Maria ('Mary, I'm all yours') is an avid promoter of the belief that, although Jesus is the Prince of Peace, Mary is the one who brings peace to the world. This common Catholic teaching became stronger for the Pope as a result of his near assassination. When he realized that the attempt on his life on May 13, 1981, had taken place on the anniversary of the Virgin Mary's first 'appearance' on May 13, 1917, at Fatima, Portugal, the Pope was convinced that 'Our Lady of Fatima' had spared his life [St. Louis Review (Nov. 4, 1988), in Christian News (Nov. 14, 1988), 10-11]. John Paul II went to Fatima on May 13, 1982 and 'prayed before the statue of Our Lady of Fatima,...[and) consecrate[d] the world to Mary as she had requested.' On May 13, 1984, he 'consecrated the world again to Our Lady of Fatima' [ibid.] who had promised: 'If my wishes are fulfilled...my Immaculate Heart will triumph, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace!' [Our Lady of Fatima's Peace Plan from Heaven, Tan Books and Publishers, inside back cover, 1983]. Thus the un-Scriptural 'Mary' of Catholicism is credited with bringing about the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe. Is this 'Mary' happy with the resultant 'smorgasbord' of Christian cults and heretical sects which have since flooded these countries and try to squeeze out the preaching of the true Gospel of Christ as found only in the Bible?! In obedience to 'Our Lady of Fatima's' request, a succession of popes consecrated the world and especially the Russian people to the 'Immaculate Heart of Mary,' supposedly setting in motion the spiritual forces that she had promised would bring peace to the world, namely:

Many go to Hell because Jesus sacrifice was insufficient?


Pope Pius XII on July 7, 1952; Pope Paul VI twelve years later, and Pope John Paul II on May 13, 1982, and again on May 13, 1984. Declaring that the Lord had 'confided the peace of the world to her,' the apparition that appeared as the Virgin of Fatima presented its plan for 'peace on earth': 'Say the Rosary every day to obtain peace....Pray, pray, a great deal, and make sacrifices for sinners, for many souls go to Hell because they have no one to make sacrifices and pray for them...If people do what I tell you, many souls will be saved and there will be peace'. [
ibid.]

The substitution of Mary for Christ is as blasphemous as to claim that 'many souls go to hell because they have no one to make sacrifices and pray for them.' There is only one sacrifice that can be made for sin and which can totally deliver the soul from hell, and that is the sacrifice accomplished once for all by Christ upon the cross. Instead, Catholicism offers a false Jesus and a false gospel. Professing for itself the place and attributes of Christ, the apparition of Mary at Fatima promised: 'I will never leave you. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God....In order to save [mankind], God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart....I promise to assist at the hour of death with all the graces necessary for salvation all those who...mak[e] reparation to me [Lucia Speaks on the Message of Fatima, Ave Maria Institute, Washington, NJ 07882; 26, 30-31, 47]. 'Jesus,' too, appeared at Fatima as a small child by his mother's side! The resurrected, glorified Saviour, who bears the marks of Calvary at the Father's right hand, is not still a small child! Those who saw this vision were either lying or hallucinating, or were deceived by demons masquerading as an obviously false 'Mary' and false 'Jesus.' Yet every pope in the last 60 years has endorsed the Fatima visions. On February 15, 1926, 'the Child Jesus again appeared to Lucia, asking her if she had spread this devotion of reparation to the Immaculate Heart of His Holy Mother' [ibid.]. This claim that reparation must be made 'to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for mankind to be saved' is another abomination!

Rome attributes to Mary what Christ has already done!


In 'The Holy Father's Prayer for the Marian Year [1988]', John Paul II didn't ask Mary to
pray for Catholics, he asked her to do what only God can do: to comfort, guide, strengthen and protect 'the whole of humanity....'. His prayer ended: 'Sustain us, O Virgin Mary, on our journey of faith and obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation' (emphasis added). He attributed to Mary what Christ has already done! The records show hundreds of prayers to Mary, such as: 'In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul....For, if thou protect me, dear Mother, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them...nor even from Jesus, my Judge himself, because by one prayer from thee he will be appeased...But one thing I fear; that in the hour of temptation, I may neglect to call on thee, and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, then, the pardon of my sins....'. This is blasphemy!

For Catholics, Christ's sacrifice is not enough and salvation is only through the Church, its sacraments, one's personal suffering and good deeds. In his 'infallible' papal bull, Unum Sanctum, Pope Boniface VIII declared: 'There is one holy Catholic and apostolic church, outside of which there is
no salvation...it is altogether necessary for salvation for every creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.' This was confirmed by Vatican Council I, and Vatican II declared: 'The Catholic Church ceaselessly and efficaciously seeks for the return of all humanity and all its goods under [Rome]....this holy Council teaches...that the church...is necessary for salvation.' (emphasis added - Vatican Council II, Costello Publishing, Austin Flannery, O.P., General Editor, Vol I, pp 364-65).

Which 'Jesus' do Roman Catholics have to accept? The Bible warns of 'another Jesus' and 'another gospel' (2 Cor 11:4; Gal 1:6). Though Catholics claim to believe Christ died for their sins, much more has been added by the Papacy. Catholic apologist Karl Keating claims: ''accepting Jesus' has nothing to do with turning a spiritually dead soul into a soul alive with sanctifying grace....we are all redeemed--Christians, Jews, Moslems, animists...but our salvation is conditional... you must work to earn your salvation....' (Karl Keating, Catholicism and Fundamentalism, Ignatius Press, 1988, 167, 169). Keating reflects the official teaching of Roman Catholicism as found in The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent (1545-64) and Vatican II (1962-65). Trent denied every Reformation doctrine, from sola scriptura to salvation by grace through faith alone. It pronounced 125 anathemas (effectively eternal damnation) upon anyone believing what evangelicals believe and preach today, e.g.: 'No one can know with the certainty of faith...that he has obtained the grace of God [anathema to all who claim they know]' (Trent, 6th Ses., Chap. IX). 'If anyone says that the sacraments of the new law are not necessary for salvation...but that without them...men obtain from God through faith alone the grace of justification...let him be anathema' (Trent, 7th Ses., Canon 4). Vatican II, far from making changes, reaffirmed Trent: 'This sacred council...proposes again the decrees of...the Council of Trent' (Vol I, p 412). As for the 'sacraments of the new law,' which Trent said were 'necessary for salvation,' Vatican II declared, 'For it is the liturgy through which, especially in the divine sacrifice of the Eucharist, the work of our redemption is accomplished' (Vol 1, p 1).

Here are a few more quotes from Vatican II, which prove conclusively that Roman Catholicism is a counterfeit gospel: 'Sins must be expiated...through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life...otherwise...in the next life through fire and torments ...[because] our souls need to be purified ...in purgatory the souls of those who died in the charity of God and truly repentant but who had not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt' (Vol 1, pp 63-64).

Rome's 'indulgences' reduce/eliminate suffering after death?


The Bible declares: 'When he [Christ] had by himself purged our sins (Hebrews 1:3)...by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us (9:12)...without shedding of blood is no remission [of sin] (9:22). Christ shed His blood to effect this and there is no suffering in a purgatory of any kind to accomplish what Christ has done, for Scripture declares: '...now where remission of these is, there is no more offering [sacrifice] for sin (10:18)...we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all (10:10)...for by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified' (10:14). Catholicism denies this biblical gospel and teaches that one must be 'purged' by suffering for one's own sins - and it offers 'indulgences' to reduce or eliminate that suffering. 'Indulgences' can thus discharge what Christ's death (supposedly) could not. Vatican II has 20 complex rules concerning when and how an indulgence may be obtained, e.g.:

'The faithful who use with devotion an object of piety (crucifix, cross, rosary, scapular or medal) after it has been duly blessed by any priest, can gain a partial indulgence. But if this object of piety is blessed by the Pope or any bishop, the faithful who use it with devotion can also gain a plenary [full] indulgence on the feast of the Apostles Peter and Paul, provided they also make a profession of faith using any approved formula' (Vol 1, pp 77-78).

'The Church...commands that the usage of indulgences...should be kept...and it condemns with anathema those who say that indulgences are useless or that the Church does not have the power to grant them...[for] the task of winning salvation' (Vol 1, pp 71, 74).

Indulgences are dispensed from a 'treasury...[entrusted by Christ] to the blessed Peter...and his successors...Christ's Vicars on earth...[to] distribute to the faithful
for their salvation' (Vol 1, p70).

'This treasury includes the prayers and good works of the blessed Virgin Mary...[plus] the prayers and good works of all saints [who] attained their own salvation and at the same time cooperated in saving their brothers' (Vol 1, p. 66).

'Those who believe in [Christ] have always ...carried their crosses to make expiation for their own sins and the sins of others' (Vol 1, p65). 'From the most ancient times in the church good works were also offered to God for the salvation of sinners...' (Vol 1,p. 68).

In 1792, John Carroll, first Catholic Bishop of the USA, declared the nation to be 'under Mary's protection' and, in 1847, Pope Pius IX named the Catholic 'Mary' as 'Patroness of the United States.' The huge basilica of 'The National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception' was erected in Washington, D.C. and some of the official prayers offered to Mary at this shrine include the following expressions: '[W]e put the United States of America into the hands of Mary Immaculate....Our Mother, Patroness of our land, we praise you and honor you and give ourselves to you. Protect us from every harm....[A]cting always according to your will....[W]e dedicate ourselves to your service....Save sinners and console the dying. You are our hope, Mary, Mother of Mercy and Gate of Heaven.' This is blasphemy, for appeals of this kind should only be made to God. The last prayer listed in the booklet of official prayers to be offered at this shrine says, in part:

'O Mother of Perpetual Help, grant that I may ever invoke your most powerful name, which is the safeguard of the living and the salvation of the dying. O Purest Mary, O Sweetest Mary, let your name henceforth be ever on my lips. Delay not, O blessed Lady, to help me whenever I call on you, for, in all my needs, in all my temptations, I shall never cease to call on you, ever repeating your sacred name, Mary, Mary. O what consolation, what sweetness, what confidence, what emotion fill my soul when I pronounce your sacred name, or even only think of you.'

The biography of Pope John XXIII contains hundreds of pages of the Pope's devotion to Mary and the saints, worship of the Eucharistic wafer, and his trust in the sacraments for salvation. Mary has at least a thousand times more shrines dedicated to her than to her Son, the only Saviour God the Lord Jesus Christ, and she is considered the 'queen of ecumenism,' someone whom diverse religions can honour, rally around, and even worship without offending their respective theologies. The Los Angeles Times reported that: 'A growing number of Americans from all Christian denominations are reaching out to the Virgin Mary as a comforting conduit of spirituality and a symbol of peace in troubled times....It's not just Catholics who are interested in Mary and following the apparitions....' (L.A. Times, 12/25/98)

'Our Lady of Medjugorje' unites Rome with Islam?


'Our Lady of Medjugorje', who has made numerous appearances in the war-torn area of Bosnia and Herzegovina (where Roman Catholics, Muslims and 'Orthodox' have regularly killed one another over the centuries), allegedly communicated to one of the visionaries: 'Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and I [sic]. You are all my children.' (Medjugorje Day by Day, Richard Beyer, Ave Maria Press,1993)

The Mary of Catholicism was immaculately conceived, the Mother of God, a perpetual virgin, Mediatrix between God and man, and the Queen of Heaven. The Family Rosary Commemorative Edition of the Catholic Bible issued in remembrance of The Marian Year [1954] has 'TO JESUS THROUGH MARY' engraved in gold on the front cover. Just inside is a full-page picture of 'Mary, Comforter of the Afflicted' which is followed by a prayer to Mary from 'His Holiness Pope Pius XII ...recited for the first time...[at] the Basilica of Saint Mary Major.' The prayer includes the following: 'Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty ...we cast ourselves into your arms, O immaculate mother of Jesus...confident of finding...a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us....O conqueror of evil and death...bend tenderly over our aching wounds...protect the holy Church....Receive, O sweet mother, our humble supplications [that] we may repeat before your [heavenly] throne the hymn that today is sung in earth around your altars: 'You are all beautiful, O Mary! You are the glory, you are the joy, you are the honor of our people.' Amen.' To claim that glory, joy and honour belong to Mary before her throne and altars is horrendous blasphemy!

For anyone who has an interest in learning the truth about Mary, the only trustworthy account is to be found in the Scriptures, where information is presented by those who knew her personally and, more importantly, whose writings were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Fewer than 90 Bible verses address the life of Mary. In them we find a wonderfully humble, blessed servant of the Lord who rejoices in Him as her Saviour (Lk 1:47). Obviously her heart was not 'immaculate' nor was she conceived without sin because her Son, her Savior, came not for the sinless but 'to seek and to save that which was lost' (Lk 19:10). The Catholic Church seems to be confused over this issue of Mary's sinlessness because it considers her to be the woman of Revelation 12: 'clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.' This specific imagery is reflected on innumerable statues of Mary around the world. Yet the Bible says this woman gave birth in pain and travail (Rev 12:2), and pain and labour are part of God's judgment on sinners (Gen 3:15-16). So either the beatified 'infallible' Pope Pius IX, who engineered her immaculate conception into Church dogma, was wrong about Mary's sinlessness, or the 'infallible' Pope Pius XII and numerous other Catholic theologians were wrong about Mary being the 'woman' of Revelation 12:1-2. Mary's ministry was simply the birth and nurturing of the child Jesus. Once He reached adulthood, she played no influential part in His earthly service. At the wedding feast of Cana, which began the public ministry of Jesus, her last words are recorded. Fittingly, she tells the servants, 'Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it (Jn 2:5). There is no doubt that she is exemplary among biblical saints as a model of obedience and submission to the will of God, especially in the appointment to which she was called. In keeping with the words of John the Baptist: 'He must increase, but I must decrease' (Jn 3:30), Mary faded into the background. Search the Scriptures as you will and you will find no leadership role for Mary among the Apostles. She taught no doctrine. We never read of the Apostles seeking her out for counsel. Other than the gospels, Mary is mentioned only once in the New Testament, where the Book of Acts tells us of her simple participation in a prayer meeting along with her sons. The teaching that Mary was a perpetual virgin is also contradicted by many other verses (Mt 12:46; Mk 6:3; Jn 7:3,5; 1 Cor 9:5; Gal 1:19; Ps 69:8; etc.).

The apparitions around the world who claim to be the Mary of Scripture are very contrary to the Mary presented in Scripture. In subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways the apparitions are given to self-aggrandizement and self-promotion - all to the devaluation of Jesus - and their instructions are clearly and regularly anti-biblical and anti-Christ. The 'Mary' who spoke to Father Gobbi, the founder of the Marian Movement of more than 100,000 priests, declared: 'Each of My statues is a sign of a presence of Mine and reminds you of your heavenly Mother. Therefore it must be honoured and put in places of greater veneration....' (Fr. Don Stefano Gobbi, To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, 1998, 383). The Mary of Catholicism is not the humble and submissive Mary of the Bible. The rosary invokes prayers to Mary ten times for every one for the Lord. Jesus is the Prince of Peace and only His once-for-all sacrifice saves souls from hell. Mary's heart is never described in Scripture as 'immaculate', nor are we to be spiritually devoted to anyone other than our Lord and Saviour. The Marian apparitions present a status for Mary which is without support or precedent in the Scriptures. The Apostle Peter, a contemporary of Mary and erroneously regarded by Catholics as the first pope, wrote nothing about her. The Apostle Paul, through the Holy Spirit, gave more specific instruction in living the Christian life than any other writer in the Bible, yet made no mention of the alleged importance of devotions or reparations to Mary. In contrast to the apparitional Mary who claims to have been 'conceived without sin,' Paul called himself 'the chief of sinners,' yet God made him the most productive figure of the New Testament after Christ. The Apostle John, who wrote the last book of the Bible and was given the care of Mary by Jesus himself, says nothing about venerating her. The apparitions are clearly not the mother of Jesus, although they make every attempt to be perceived that way. Many appear as a young woman bearing an infant. So who's this child? Jesus was in His thirties when He returned triumphantly to His Father. Obviously, the apparitional Mary has the superior position in the relationship, for what small child would not be obedient to his mother? Anyone believing Catholicism's view of these apparitions clearly does not believe Scripture which warns us to beware anyone who brings 'another gospel' (Galatian 1:6-9) - or who appears as an 'angel of light' (2 Corinthians 11:4) - as has clearly happened in these deceptions!

How can Rome make Mary 'co-Redeemer'?


The pernicious myth of Christ's subservience to His mother which Roman Catholicism has deliberately promoted for centuries is perpetuated in Catholic cathedrals throughout the world where paintings, statues and stained glass give Mary the dominant role. She is even at times shown on the cross as our Redeemer! Jesus is either a helpless babe on His mother's breast, a small child between her knees, or a lifeless victim of the Cross in her arms. Never is she in subjection to Him, and rarely if ever is He shown in the triumph of His resurrection. She is the 'Queen of Heaven' and Jesus remains a child subject to her direction. Typical is the beautiful thirteenth-century stained-glass window observed in a church in France. At the top are the words Le Pergatoire, indicating that it is a depiction of 'purgatory.' Mary and Jesus are shown on a cloud (i.e., in heaven), with the tormented souls in the flames of purgatory below them, arms extended upward in supplication. Are they crying out to Christ for help? No, they are appealing to Mary. She wears the regal crown. Jesus, the Lord of Glory, who triumphed over Satan at the Cross and now sits at the right hand of the Father is depicted as a child about seven years old, standing between the 'Queen of Heaven's' knees! No wonder the souls in 'purgatory' do not appeal to Him for help. At the bottom of the beautiful stained-glass depiction of this abomination are the words: Mère Marie, sauvez nous! ('Mother Mary, save us!'). Such heresy does not originate in the imaginations of the artists but in tradition and dogma not only tolerated but promoted by the Roman Catholic Church. The fear of purgatory is very real to a Catholic, and 'Mary' has provided an escape for those faithful to her. Apparitions are the primary source of many major Catholic liturgies, rituals, and dogmas. She allegedly appeared to St. Simon Stock on July 16, 1251 and gave him what is known as 'The Great Promise': 'Whosoever dies wearing this Scapular [two pieces of brown cloth containing Mary's promise on one, her picture with 'Baby Jesus' on the other, worn one in front, one in back, connected over the shoulder by two strings] shall not suffer eternal fire.' Like the Mormon's 'magic' underwear, the Catholic's scapular will supposedly accomplish what the death, burial and resurrection of Christ could not. In 1322, Pope John XXII supposedly received a further promise from 'Mary' known as 'The Sabbatine Privilege': 'I, the Mother of Grace, shall descend on the Saturday after their death and whomsoever I shall find in Purgatory [who died wearing the scapular], I shall free.' St. Simon Stock's famous prayer ends thus: 'O Sweet Heart of Mary, be our salvation!' The Dominican Order claims its founder initiated the devotion of the rosary through the counsel of an apparition of Mary in the thirteenth century. In 1830 an apparition introduced the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception along with the Miraculous Medal. Millions are seduced into thinking they are Christians because they have a sentimental feeling for the 'baby Jesus.' Let us remember what Christ said to those who believed on Him: 'If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free' (Jn 8:31-32). It is that truth which we seek to proclaim clearly and powerfully.

Rather than as a helpless babe, the Bible exalts Jesus as the King of kings, Lord of lords, Creator of the universe, the glorified Son of God, God manifested in the flesh! Although mankind is being drawn into every kind of spiritual deception in the last days before the return of Jesus, it is especially sad that the real mother of Jesus, the remarkable 'handmaid of the Lord' (Lk 1:38), is so terribly misrepresented, thereby drawing millions away from her Son.

In the Gospel of Luke (11:27-28) we find a well-meaning woman saying to Jesus concerning His mother: 'Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!' Had the Mary we know from Scripture been present, we can be certain that she would have added a hearty amen to her Son's poignant response: 'Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!'

The virtual deification of Mary by the Papal system results in another attempt to reach heaven mirrored by all those who try to 'climb up some other way' (Jn 10:1) instead of entering through the door (Christ) which God has provided. Paul specifies the gospel that saves: 'that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures' (1 Cor 15:3-4). 'I am the door,' said Christ: 'by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved' (Jn 10:9).

Sincerely in Christ Jesus, our only Saviour and Mediator

TCE


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Scott Arrigoni replies:  25th January 2005

I simply asked you to provide sources for the quotes which I included in my previous e-mail... You have not done that! You have used quotations so I assume these are direct quotes from CATHOLIC publications or articles, right???

I'll be waiting for your response… [Scott also included a chunk of material from an un-referenced  website - perhaps:

http://matt1618.freeyellow.com/woman.html

or

http://www.motherofallpeoples.com/Articles/General_Mariology/the-woman-and-the-serpent-genesis-315.html

TCE comments on the supplied verses later (Note: there are so many errors in grammar alone in this supplied text that we have not attempted to correct or highlight them, e.g. with a traditional [
sic])!


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TCE replies:  1st March 2005

TCE:  As a matter of fact you didn't ask us to provide sources for the quotes, you asked:  'where did you get this quote???' - a question which we have answered reasonably, albeit not to your satisfaction!

Mary credited with attributes that belong to Christ alone!


Since the compiler of the section in question is no longer with us we cannot supply the definite source of the quotes - but we are fairly certain they came from the book by Cardinal (and 'Saint') Alphonsus de Liguori,
The Glories of Mary (Redemptorist Fathers, 1931), a compendium of quotes down through the centuries by great 'saints' of the Roman Catholic Church. The book credits Mary with attributes, abilities, titles, and functions that belong to Christ alone: 'Mary, Our Life, Our Sweetness'; 'Mary, Our Hope'; 'Mary, Our Help'; 'Mary, Our Advocate'; 'Mary, Our Guardian'; 'Mary, Our Salvation.'  Quotes, by such as 'St. Germanus' and 'St. Bernard', include:

Sinners receive pardon by... Mary alone. He falls and is lost who has not recourse to Mary. Mary is called the gate of Heaven because no one can enter that blessed kingdom without passing through her. The way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary... the salvation of all depends on their being favored and protected by Mary. He who is protected by Mary will be saved; he who is not will be lost … our salvation depends on thee.... God will not save us with-out the intercession of Mary.... who would receive any grace were it not for thee, O Mother of God... There is no one, O most holy Mary … who can be saved or redeemed but through thee… As we have access to the Eternal Father only through Jesus Christ, so we have access to Jesus Christ only through Mary.  By thee we have access to the Son, O blessed finder of grace, bearer of life, and mother of salvation… (
ibid, pp.  82-83, 94, 160, 169-71).

These quotes are but a few of literally thousands which show that this false Mary is the very heart and life of Roman Catholicism. How can Catholic apologists deny that Catholics pray
to Mary and the saints?  It is clear that the most numerous and popular prayers in Catholicism  are to the saints and especially to Mary, not to God or to Christ. Moreover, these prayers ask Mary to do for Catholics and for the entire world what she would literally have to be God (and Christ in some situations) to be able to accomplish.  If you believe you need to know the exact source of our original quotes you deceive yourself, for anyone interested in the nature of Rome's deceptions can chose from a multitude of un-Biblical prayers offered directly by popes past and present, or from other sources condoned by the church authorities, e.g., at the close of the Sunday Mass in Denver in August 1993, John Paul II consigned all youth and the entire world to Mary's protection and guidance:

Mary of the New Advent, we implore your protection on the preparations that will now begin for the next meeting [World Youth Day]. Mary, full of grace, we entrust the next World Youth Day to you. Mary, assumed into heaven, we entrust the young people of the world ... the whole world to you! (
NRI Trumpet, October 1993, p. 14).

Catholics pray to Mary - making requests only God could fulfill?


Why do Catholics ask Mary
to pray for them and make requests that only God could fulfill? But these are typical of Catholic petitions of Mary, who is exalted to omnipotence and credited with caring for all who trust in her. In the pope's September 1993 speech in Lithuania, he spoke of Mary as:

'Mother of the Church, Queen of the Apostles [and] dwelling place of the Trinity'! He told 'priests and aspirants to the priestly life, men and women Religious' to 'look to Mary... who is venerated here… in the shrines of Ausros Vartai and Siluva, to which I will go on pilgrimage!... To Mary I entrust all of you... !' (
The Pope Speaks, March/April, vol. 39., no. 2, 1994, p. 105)

What a conglomeration of un-Scriptural nonsense!  And
'dwelling place of the Trinity'?   Can't people see how this places the Papal 'Mary' on a higher plane than the only True Godhead of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

In the most recited Catholic prayer, the Rosary the final petition reads:

Hail, holy Queen [of heaven], Mother of Mercy! our life, our sweetness, and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus; O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.

How did Mary come to be called the 'Queen of Heaven'?  We are told in Scripture that Christ is the king, but there is not one statement in the Bible that clearly and unequivocally calls Mary '
queen of heaven'.  If a queen existed to share Christ's throne it would be His bride, the church composed of the redeemed, yet the church is also never openly referred to as the 'queen of heaven' (we will come back to this point). The only 'queen of heaven' definitely identified in Scripture is an idol which was worshiped by the pagans and to which the Jewish women gave offerings, bringing the wrath of God upon themselves:

The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough to make cakes to the
queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger....Because ye have burned incense [to the queen of heaven] and because ye have sinned against the Lord... therefore this evil is happened unto you (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:15).

John Paul II addressed pilgrims at Cherry Creek Park (near Denver), in 1993, in these terms:

With my heart full of praise for the Queen of Heaven, the sign of hope and source of comfort on our pilgrimage of faith to the heavenly Jerusalem, I greet all of you who are present at this solemn liturgy.... This liturgy presents you, Mary, as the woman clothed with the sun.... O woman clothed with the sun.., the youth of the world greet you with so much love.... In Mary the final victory of life over death is already a reality....O Mary... as Mother of the Church, you guide us still from your place in heaven and... help us to increase in holiness by conquering sin. (Kathleen R. Hayes, 'All-Night Prayer Vigil Becomes Devotion to Lady of
the New Advent, a Heavenly Goddess,' NRI Trumpet, October 1993, pp. 6-14).

(Continued on page 286)

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Catholics are against the occult?

What is 'the church' founded on?

Jesus said his flesh was real food and his blood real drink?

Even if Rome were wrong about the Eucharist - it would still be alright with God?

'Visual Eucharistic Miracles' prove Rome is correct?

The Eucharist - as possible as the Incarnation?

Blind unthinking faith is required to be a Christian?

Failure to 'discern the Eucharistic truth' brings Judgement?

Is the 'Pope' an antichrist?

Should Christians 'take action' against Roman Catholics?

Catholicism's Christology is heretical!

Many go to Hell because Jesus sacrifice was insufficient?

Rome attributes to Mary what Christ has already done!

Rome's 'indulgences' reduce/eliminate suffering after death?

'Our Lady of Medjugorje' unites Rome with Islam?

How can Rome make Mary 'co-Redeemer'?

Mary credited with attributes that belong to Christ alone!

Catholics pray to Mary - making requests only God could fulfill?

The Queen of Heaven and Babylon - and Rome!

Mary is not 'mediatrix' between mankind and Christ!

Mary's 'Immaculate Conception' - only officially declared by Rome in 1854!

Mary's 'bodily assumption to heaven' - only officially declared by Rome in 1950!

Rome's invented doctrine that Mary was 'united' in the redeeming suffering of her Son!

The 'woman' of Revelation 12 is Israel - not Mary

Alternative views of the 'woman' peddled by Rome?

How was Genesis 3:15 understood by the early believers in the nation of Israel?

Other attempts to add Mary's sufferings to the Redemption wrought by the Lord Jesus Christ

Rome promotes 'Mary' to 'Mother of the Head, and the Mother of the Body'

Israel, or Mary, 'clothed' with the 'Sun, moon and stars'?

How Rome attempts to 'prove' their 'Immaculate Conception' doctrine

Exegesis claimed for eisegesis - even appealing to Luther!

The term 'woman' in the New Testament - and Genesis 3:15?

Did Jesus regularly use the term 'woman' when addressing women?

What about the other occasions when men addressed individual women as 'woman'?

Why 'born of woman' does not equate to 'the Woman' of Revelation 12

Does the term 'woman' always simply refer to an individual?

Mary is the 'Mother of the Church?'

The Mother of Jesus shares in the sufferings of the 'Immolated Lamb'?

Mary is the Mother of the Head and Mother of the Body?

Popes instruct believers to pray to Mary - what does Jesus say!?

Rome's use of force to compel obedience!

Thomas Aquinas, Popes, and bishops, vow to kill 'heretics'?

What kind of 'unity' does Rome really promote?

Rome's doctrine of 'the two swords'?

Massacres resulting from Papal policies?

The Inquisition - created by Popes to deal with heretics!

Influence of Ignatius Loyola and the Jesuit order?

Why was Paul John II accused of heresy by other Papists?

Let us see you prove these historical facts to be false!

Rome's 'gospel' is defined by Scripture to be 'accursed'?

How does the Word of God define Christian 'unity'?

The Word of God defines Rome as a 'stumbling block'

'Binding and loosing' - and the 'Keys'?

Thomas Aquinas approved the killing of those who opposed Papal Rome!

Whether heretics ought to be tolerated?

Would the Catholic Church put heretics to death - if it still could?!

Aquinas - the fate of the 'heretic' was determined by the Church of Rome!

When did Rome fall into serious, evil error?

The paganization of Christianity began under Constantine

The Church Fathers never claimed to be inspired

The Sovereignty of God

John 6v52 - and those represented in the 'parable of the sower'

What happens to Papal bread & wine if left?

How did the 'thief on the cross' get the promise of Paradise from Jesus?

The seeking after good works of 'correct' sacraments for salvation

Manna in the wilderness and Jesus - 'The Bread of Heaven'

Another problem in claiming a literal meaning for 'transubstantiation'!

'Transubstantiation' contradicts Scriptural warning against cannibalism!

Many, like the Jews, choose to be offended by this offer of Jesus'

Dwelling in Christ - Biblically and the version of Papal Rome!

Peter understood - why don't the many 'popes' who supposedly followed him?

Metaphorical interpretation proves falseness of Papal dogma of transubstantiation

Jesus spoke of the cup as symbolizing the new covenant

Papal decree (A.D. 1415) forbade laymen to partake of the wine in the Lord's Supper

Another cultic flip-flop (Vatican II council, 1962-65) now allows both bread and the wine to lay-persons!

Papal contradiction meant failure to fully administer 'Sacramental Mass' to all believers for 550 years!

Jesus Who?

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