'Replies from Muslims'

Rami Sbeiti - 14

17th January, 2004

(Continued from page 422)

But, after the relatively small scale nightmare of the Taliban in Afghanistan, it is in Sudan that the full horror of the Islam of Muhammad is revealed.  In Sudan, right now, we have the longest war in history still raging.  Starting in 1955, with a short cease-fire in the late '70s, it restarted again in full fury in 1983. Two million people have died in the last 17 years!  The war is between the Muslim-Arab majority of the north and the Christian-black majority of the south. Even though they are a minority in the whole country, the Christians are the majority of the population in southern Sudan.  The problem lies in the attempts by the government of Sudan to enforce Islamic law on the Christians in the south. When the Christians resisted the government started mass genocide, bombing their hospitals and schools, destroying crops and wells, and enslaving their children.

The world media is somehow ignoring these crimes in the largest country in Africa while war correspondents absent themselves from the longest war - which is still raging.  More people have died in the conflict in Sudan than died in all the conflicts in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Somalia - and Iraq -combined.  But civilian monitors in Sudan have testified that the Muslim-dominated Khartoum government is violating the American-negotiated cease-fire that was designed to protect Sudanese Christians and others in the south.  Sudan's militant Muslim regime is slaughtering Christians who refuse to convert to Islam, according to Dennis Bennett, executive director of Seattle-based
'Servant's Heart' who reported that the forced conversions are just one aspect of the Khartoum government's self-declared jihad on the mostly Christian and animist south.  Villagers in several areas of the northeast Upper Nile region reported that women captured by government forces are asked: 'Are you Christian or Muslim?'  Women who answer 'Muslim' are set free, but soldiers gang-rape those who answer 'Christian' then cut off their breasts and leave them to die as an example for others.  Bennett says these stories are corroborated by witnesses from several tribes in the region. Upon returning to the U.S., he wrote to influential members of Congress and activists asking how long the United States government would tolerate 'the jihad of the Government of Sudan against the Black African Christians of South Sudan?'

Although the struggle had already been underway for 34 years, backed by Muslim clerics, the National Islamic Front regime in the Arab and Muslim north declared a
jihad, or holy war, on the south in 1989 As a result, since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine. About 4.5 million have also become refugees.  Sudan's holy war against the south was reaffirmed in October by First Vice President Ali Osman Taha:  'The jihad is our way, and we will not abandon it and will keep its banner high,' he said to a brigade of mujahedin fighters heading for the war front, according to Sudan's official SUNA news agency: 'We will never sell out our faith and will never betray the oath to our martyrs.'

The U.S. House of Representatives adopted a resolution finding that Khartoum is
'systematically committing genocide,' but current legislation that would impose sanctions has been stalled. The Sudan Peace Act is opposed by both the White House and Wall Street.  Sanctions in the House version of the bill target oil revenues that Khartoum is using to fuel its war effort. Bennett, with 20 years experience in international risk management and banking, said he was the first to probe the link between oil and jihad that is now documented and publicized by human rights groups. His research began in 1996 when he asked: 'If you're the government of Sudan and you're broke, how are you paying for your war?'

In his letter urging action by the U.S., he points out that Sudan's military continues to decorate and promote known war criminals such as Commander Taib Musba, who in the mid-1980s killed an estimated 15,000 unarmed, civilian, ethnic Uduk Christians.  In 1986, Musba entered the Uduk tribal capital of Chali and declared to its Christians:
'You are all going to convert from Christianity to Islam today, because here is what's going to happen to you if you don't.'   Musba then killed five church leaders in front of the gathered villagers. When they refused to convert, he began killing unarmed men, women and children. Some were herded at gunpoint into a hut then run over by a 50-ton, Soviet-made tank.  He also herded groups of about a dozen people into a hut, where he asked the first person: 'Do you renounce Jesus Christ?' Anyone who refused was killed by a three-inch nail driven into the top of the head.

The U.N. high commissioner for refugees granted the Uduks international refugee status in 1992 after investigating the atrocities, but almost as many died during the six years they waited for the declaration.  Islam is also forced on Sudanese in the Muslim north. Security police in Khartoum are pursuing a local convert to Christianity who went into hiding three weeks ago to escape arrest and possible death, the Compass Direct news service reports.  Aladin Omer Agabni Mohammed, who left Islam 11 years ago to become a Christian, is subject to the death penalty under Sudanese criminal law for
'apostasy.'  According to a church leader, two other converts face a similar situation.

Bennett reported that, in addition to the more immediate, readily apparent, atrocities taking place, there is a slower, less perceptive persecution that is equally deadly.  Forced starvation is one of the primary tools of the Khartoum regime, he says. When government forces attack a Christian village, they kill everyone they catch, but those who flee lose everything necessary for survival: 
'The government comes in and burns the crops, burns grain stored if there was any excess, burns houses down,' Bennett said. 'Now you have only the clothes on your back, no tools, no cooking pots, no buckets for water, and you have to run two days through the bush in 115-degree temperatures in order to escape.'  In the arid wilderness, escapees try to survive on tree leaves and stagnant, dysentery-infested water.  Only the very fittest survive and the elderly and young are the first victims.  Just as this evil Islamic government planned, only conversion to Islam can save many from such a fate.  People have sometimes pretended they have converted in order to get the food aid. But in an Islamic country like Sudan, they have anti-apostasy laws. As a result people who make even a very superficial profession of faith, reciting the creed of Islam  -  "There's no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet"  - and thereafter apostatize or turn away from Islam and revert to the Christian faith, are deemed to be guilty of a capital offense. According to the law in Sudan, based on the appropriate Quranic verses, they can then be executed - and many have been executed for the crime of apostasy in Sudan.  Incredibly, for those who try to claim Islam as a religion of peace, the Supreme Court of Sudan declared some time ago that crucifixion of such apostates is constitutional.  You might ask how, in this day and age of supposed civilization, any government on earth could declare crucifixion to be in accordance with their constitution!  Astonishingly, this is the government that replaced the United States on the U.N. Human Rights Commission.   But then, examination of the record of the UN reveals corruption and disaster at every turn.  How could they claim that, since 1989, when they opened up Operation Lifeline Sudan, they have spent over $3 billion?  How many people can you feed with that kind of money?  Do the maths!  The problem is not with the money given, but with the recipients - the evidence shows that most of the U.N. food aid is going to the very people who are causing the famine, burning the crops, and poisoning the wells of the people of Sudan.  Many of the people of southern Sudan testify that they have never received anything from the U.N. or any of the Operation Lifeline Sudan conglomerate.

Slavery Today!

With this mountain of evidence, how can Muslims try and claim there is no compulsion in their religion?  As we have written many times before, in religion only the utterly corrupt Roman Catholic Cult can begin to approach the record of crimes against humanity held by Islam, and these crimes have only been exceeded by the religion-hating Communists of Russia, closely followed by China and Cambodia!  Which is the last religion of the world to continue the oppression of slavery?  Slavery is another tool of the National Islamic Front regime and Western Bahr El Ghazal is one location where it persists because the railroad line allows captured men, women and children to be taken to slave markets in the north.  In July, 2002, during a fact finding trip to Southern Sudan,
Freedom Now World News discovered overwhelming evidence that young black, boy slaves were repeatedly gang-raped by their Arab masters. While previous reports on slavery have focussed mainly on the gang-rape of female slaves, sociologist and investigative reporter, Maria Sliwa received testimony from numerous boy victims of rapes and beatings.  Many of the redeemed slaves told Sliwa that, in order to avoid rape, male slaves would try to escape but were hunted down like animals by their masters.  The punishment for resisting rape is often severe beatings, death, or limb amputation.  Sliwa noted that the knowledge of male slave rape is widespread and has come to the attention of community leaders in Southern Sudan.  International law recognizes both slavery and rape in the context of armed conflict as crimes against humanity. The International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia has recently convicted Serbian soldiers for committing these offenses.  Freedom Now World News called on the U.S. Government to investigate this aspect of the Government of Sudan's declared jihad against the Black Africans of Southern Sudan and press for the establishment of an International Criminal Tribunal for Sudan.

The accompanying controversy surrounding slave redemption  - the practice of buying the freedom of slaves promoted by some humanitarian groups - arose again when the Irish Times and Washington Post published exposés acknowledging the existence of slavery in Sudan but alleging that fake slave redemption (families, or groups of natives, selling one of their members to the humanitarian group who then set them 'free') is also taking place.

Who are the real terrorists?!

You write:  You go on you mention that Islam has killed Jews and speaks ill of Jews. You also, in the same breath, site [sic] the Terrorism of today as a representation of Islam. Once again David, let us seek the truth and NOTHING but the WHOLE truth. Please read the book 'One Nation Under Israel' and tell me who the real terrorist are over the past 2500 years! That is another miracle of the Quran in that it mentions how the Jews will never heed God's warnings and how they have and will continue to tarnish all the greatness he has bestowed upon them. Please be cautious in how you speak because it says much about your credibility. As an FYI: Jews have lived the BEST lives under Muslim ruling (Ask the Jews who fled Christian persecution in Spain and found refuge in The Ottoman empire). Again, just siting [sic] examples of a history I encourage you to learn more about (Also see books written by Karen Armstrong). As they say, the proof is in the pudding. Is it not enough that the Jews denied Christ!? Yet, Christians find themselves aligned with Jews against Islam. It is the Muslims of today who are being attacked because of some thugs who have decided to hijack a religion to justify their murderous actions and HELL is for them (Oddly, who put these thugs into power?).

TCE: There is nothing 'miraculous' about 'the Quran in that it mentions how the Jews will never heed God's warnings' - the record of Jewish disobedience was there in the Bible long before the Qur'an was written!  And, contrary to the Qur'an and your emphasis on 'never', the Bible records that a remnant will return to Christ Jesus (Isaiah 10:22; Jeremiah 31:33-34; Zephaniah 3:12-20).  Again, to try and suggest that any religion other than Islam has been responsible for the majority of atrocities against the rest of the world in recent history is to fly in the face of the facts.  We have already made the record clear when we began the section by writing:

There is a clear and irrefutable link between the today's terrorism, known as jihad, and the past wars of Muslim expansion which were begun by the 'prophet' Muhammad as a clear and instructed path for the creation of Allah's 'kingdom on earth.' Muslims make the same claim for 'the crusades' as Professor John Casey attempts in the biased account printed in the Daily Mail.  To claim that the crusades were the origin of the conflict between Islam and Christianity is historically inaccurate, for the first crusade was in 1096 AD whereas jihad had already been the major force for Islamic expansion for 500 years before this date. … 'Why do we not hear of the Muslim capture of Jerusalem from the Christians in 638 AD, or of the capture of Spain about 70 years later, or of the subsequent 800 year occupation?'

Do you have a reply to these questions?  How do you suggest we interview the Jews - who fled the persecution brought mainly by the Papal Roman Catholic Cult - to live under Islamic rule in 'the Ottoman empire'?  This is comparing the frying pan with the fire!  The fact that you make the reference to
'One Nation Under Israel' (by Andrew Hurley) and then state: 'tell me who the real terrorist are over the past 2500 years' makes your ignorance, or bias, clear.  This book should have tried to make a serious analysis of the funding of Islamic nations, for it is ironic that the suggested figures for rapidly rebuilding Iraq are in the region of the sum given to Israel over 50 years!  The fact that Hurley claims that Israel violated the boundaries of the 1947 United Nations partition plan, keeping Israel's own 53 percent and seizing, in 1948, more than half of the Arabs' 47 percent as well, completely whitewashes the fact that Israel had already been robbed of land and it was then FIVE Arab nations who attacked Israel!   [See our later comment on the results of Winston Churchill's foolish White Paper (1922) which  reneged on the original form of the Balfour Declaration (1917)]. The world doesn't care to know that 725,000 Palestinian Arabs chose to follow the instructions of these five nations to leave their homes despite Israel's pleas for them to stay and work for unity.  The Palestinians were told by the Arab nations that they could return to their homes when the Jews had been driven into the sea.  As we can see from the facts of history, God had other plans then - and again in 1967!  This is one of the real reasons for the Palestinian problem.  The Jews were forced to fight for survival against a force far superior in numbers and equipment.  Having been allotted such a narrow strip of land along the sea that it was indefensible, tiny Israel, as part of her victory, pushed her boundaries outward to a more defensible position.  Jordan subsequently annexed the remainder of Palestine that had been partitioned to the Palestinian Arabs. Since then, rather than being integrated into society, the Palestinian Arab refugees have been confined to camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, where they remain keeping the 'Palestinian problem' alive.  Hurley quotes Israel as saying: 'We accepted the partition plan. The Arabs didn't.'   Hurley supplies this quote from Flapan's The Birth of Israel, Myths and Realities'Acceptance of the U.N. Partition Resolution was an example of Zionist pragmatism par excellence. It was a tactical acceptance, a vital step in the right direction - a springboard for expansion when circumstances proved more judicious.'  Thus Hurley attempts - but fails - to completely reverse the facts of history!  Consider the history of Muslim opposition to the formation of modern Israel:

- Britain receives League of Nations mandate over Palestine at San Remo Conference and is told to facilitate creation of a national Jewish homeland there; Arabs riot.

- First Jewish moshav (family farming co-operative), Nahalal, is founded. Arabs riot in Jaffa.

- Churchill White Paper reduces British commitment to the Jewish people and gives 77 percent of area designated for them to Abdullah and the Arabs (Transjordan).

- Fourth wave of Jewish immigration arrives, mostly from Poland.

- Hebrew University founded in Jerusalem.

- Arabs riot in Hebron, killing Jews.

- Arabs riot in Jerusalem and massacre Jews in Hebron and Safed.  Second White Paper further reneges on Britain*s Jewish commitment and limits Jewish immigration.

- Hitler comes to power.

1933-36 - Fifth wave of immigration, mostly from Poland and Germany.

-  trying to flee Hitler, Jews begin 'illegal' immigration because Britain refuses them entry while allowing massive, illegal Arab immigration - 36,000 Arabs from Syria alone in just a few months.

1935-36 - Record 65,000 Jewish people immigrate.

- Arabs revolt and go on strike, demanding Jewish immigration stop; 500 Jews killed; British Capt. Orde Wingate establishes 'night squads' to defend Jewish settlers. Massive illegal Arab immigration continues.

- Peel Commission recommends partitioning remaining 23 percent of the land designated for the Jews into two countries: one Jewish, one Arab.

- Hitler invades Poland. White Paper limits Jewish immigration to a mere 60,000 for five years.  Ben Gurion states, 'We shall fight the war as if there is no White Paper and we shall fight the White Paper as if there is no war.'

- Third British White Paper rejects partition concept, further restricts immigration, and severely limits land sales to Jews. Massive illegal Arab immigration continues, and Arabs appropriate the land Jews are clearing for Holocaust refugees.

- While Britain and her allies fight Hitler, Haj Amin Al Husseini, grand mufti of Jerusalem, moves to Berlin to help Hitler.

1941 - Britain refuses entry to the ship
Struma, carrying 767 Romanian-Jewish refugees.  It sinks and all on board die.

- Warsaw Ghetto uprising.  Meanwhile, Britain deports 'illegal' Jewish refugees to Cyprus while allowing illegal Arab immigrants.

- World War II ends. Jews have to smuggle Holocaust survivors into Palestine.  Jewish underground works against the British.

- The Jewish Irgun reacts to British suppression and blows up the west wing of the King David Hotel.  Transjordan becomes the independent, Hashemite kingdom of Jordan.

- The British repel the ship Exodus. Its 4,500 Jewish refugees are returned to displaced-persons camps in war-torn Europe.

1947 - Nov 29 - UN partitions Palestine into two states:  one Arab, one Jewish. The
Arabs reject the plan; the Jews accept it.

1947 - Nov 29  - May 14, 1948 - Jews defend themselves against
Arab gangs. Guerrilla warfare rages.  Arabs blockade road to Jerusalem. More than 1,200 Jewish people are killed, more than half of them civilians.

1948 - May 14 - Ben-Gurion declares independence.  Within minutes, U.S. President Harry Truman recognizes the new State of Israel.

1948 - May 15 - Five Arab nations immediately attack. The year long War of Independence ensues.

1948-50 - Over 725,000 Palestinian
Arabs leave their homes despite Israel*s pleas for unity.

When people attack Israel's reactions to the
intifada they conveniently forget the unrelenting attacks on them by Arabs - and that more Palestinians (some witnesses record as many as 20,000 -  minimum figures quote well over 3,000!) were killed by the armies of King Hussein of Jordan in September 1970 than by Israel in the whole of her existence!  How did this happen?  Syria and militant Palestinians threatened King Hussein's rule and this is how he reacted!  When do we hear about that in the press of the East or the WEST!  How would the world react if Israel did the same to Arafat and his evil minions?  Israel has killed a fraction of this number of terrorists - and lost thousands of her own people.  Israel has survived for four thousand years as a people, two thousand years of exile in pagan lands with resultant Inquisitions, Pogroms and then the Holocaust, but finally re-gathered to form a State in 1948 and kept alive in a tiny land that Iran swallows up sixteen times, Iraq twenty times, Syria nine times and the Arab League four hundred and eighty-five times! How come these 'neighbours' pounced on her when she was a fledgling state and now refuse to house the Palestinian homeless? Because the cause of the hatred is the mere existence of the Jewish state whose destruction is sought by the same Satanic power which inspired the megalomaniac Hitler.

There is an obvious attack which we expect unbelievers to follow: how can Judeo-Christians challenge Muslims over their record of aggression when the Israelites took over Canaan with the sword and the Crusaders killed Muslims and Jews?  As we have detailed before on our website, Islam's fierce warriors carried Islam with the sword outside Arabia by conquering Iran, Iraq, Syria,
et al, all the way to the border of China, and westerly towards North Africa until they conquered Spain and were only turned back by determined resistance in France as they tried to take over all of Europe.  This long and repeated series of aggressive, expansionist invasions with force of arms was not an act of defence!  Anyone trying to prove otherwise is suffering a delusion as severe as that of the neo-Nazis who try to deny the reality and severity of the Holocaust.

(Continued on page 424)

Topics discussed on pages responding to Muslims
Section 1-36:

Muhammad the Comforter? (1) (2)

Christians hate Muslims!

Prejudice against Islam? (1) (2)

Is the Holy Spirit a Person?

Ahmed Deedat's debates!

Jesus - Begotten not created!

Jesus - 'My Lord and My God'!

Christ - God and Saviour

The Bible or the Koran?

Qur'anic Mistakes (1) (2)

Mistakes About the Trinity

Mistakes About the "Son" of God

Accuracy of the Bible vs. Qur'an

Sword of Islam

Trinity and the Father

Atonement before Adoption

Justification entirely by Grace

Law versus Grace

Begotten not created!

Was Jesus Crucified?

Sin and the Atonement

The Christian view of Sin

The Character of Sin

The Conditions Required


The Person Required

Only the Son of God

The Mode of Death

Holiness Through Jesus' Sacrifice

The Conditions Fulfilled

Atonement not At-one-ment

Only Jesus brings Peace with God

Islam, Christians and Jews

Islamic jihad worldwide

Slavery Today!

Who are the real terrorists?!

Deaths caused by Secular Wars

Who dropped the Atomic Bomb?

The Origin of Nazi Ideals?

'Kill the Jews' - Quotes

Islamic Links to the Nazis

Muhammad took Mecca peacefully!

Details about Jesus unimportant!

'The Trinity' cultic revisitation

What makes Islam so evil?

Crusade-like ... leads to hell

Accuracy of the Qur'an? (2)

Importance of Hadith Literature?

Eternal Destiny, Sin and Death

Holy Jehovah or 'Deceiver' Allah?

Contradictions of 'The Deceiver'

Contradictions in other Suras

'The Night of Power'

Predestination to Damnation

One Muslim's Despair

What Islam Says About Zinaa

Contrary to Qur'anic teaching

Nonsense of 'Abrogation'

The Unchanging God of the Bible

More on Dhimmis - and Jizyah!

Dawah and Jihad

Following Muhammad's Example

'Jesus ... Violence and Swords!?'

Old Testament - 'God's Holy War'!

Miracles and Islamic Conquests?

Hadith Accounts of Miracles

Biblical Tests expose Muhammad!

Those 'Satanic Verses'

Moses - a true predictive prophet

Moses proves veracity of Gospel

Muhammad supported Polytheism!

Jehovah's Judgement vs. Allah's

Joshua's "Ethnic Cleansing"!

The Peaceful 'Sword of the Spirit'

Christ Revered in the Qur'an?!

Science and the Qur'an!

Qur'an - sun sets in muddy spring!

Illiteracy of Muhammad?

Origins of the Qur'an?

Islam not as evil as depicted!

The Bible exposes Muhammad!

Muhammad - Christ's Successor?!

Qur'an and Bible - same origin?

Muhammad's lying permitted!

The 'Moon God Theory'

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