'Replies from Muslims'

Rami Sbeiti - 22

24th May, 2004

(Continued from page 430)

Nonsense of 'Abrogation'

To cover up the obvious contradiction, Muhammad had another 'revelation of convenience', claiming that one of Allah's prerogatives is abrogation, which involves the annulling of a former law by a new law (Sura 16:101).  Clearly Allah is not bound to his revelations so his 'prophet' is free to bring new revelation that contradicts former revelation.  This was convenient when  Muhammad's original revelation to pray toward Jerusalem (Sura 2:150; 2:142) was rejected by the Jews who recognised him as an imposter.  'New' revelation changed the direction of prayer toward Mecca (Sura 2:125) with this convenient explanation (Sura 2:106):

"If we abrogate a verse or consign it to oblivion, we offer something better than it or something of equal value."

It does not seem to have crossed Muslims minds that the doctrine of abrogation contradicts the view that the Qur'an is a divine book and the earthly version a perfect copy of the eternal Qur'an written on a tablet in heaven in the presence of Allah!  If Almighty God had already written the Qur'an and it was safe in heaven why would changes ever need to be made to any revelation given to Muhammad?  The God of the Bible does not change his mind!  If Allah is All-Knowing,  Wise - as we keep reading - wouldn't the initial revelation given to Muhammad be final and not need to be changed?

Famous expositor Walter Martin gave six key theological points revealing the insurmountable problems that expose the falsity of the doctrine of abrogation:

1.  We cannot trust the Qur'an, not only because it has divinely inspired contradictions but because we have no assurance that God will not abrogate again and annul the present revelation.
2.  Muslims may argue that future abrogation will not occur because Muhammad was the last prophet, but what if God abrogates that and brings still another prophet?
3.  How can we trust God with our eternal souls, knowing He could abrogate His mercy on us?
4.  Abrogation involves not only adding new revelation but also contradicting and annulling former revelation. This necessarily means God either changed His mind on a matter, or He was unaware of how future contingent events would turn out and was thus forced to make a change.
5.  Abrogation calls into question God's attributes, such as His foreknowledge (He did not have sufficient knowledge to avoid abrogation).
6.  If God is inconsistent, what is the basis for morality and ethics? We are left with no absolute right and wrong that serve as a foundation for our ethics.
(Walter Martin,
The Kingdom of the Cults, Bloomington, MN: Bethany House Publishers, 1999).

Clearly Muslims who attempt to attack the veracity of the Bible, alleging contradictions while accepting the doctrine of abrogation in the Qur'an, are being illogical.

Also notice that, while one verse in the Qur'an affirms the doctrine of abrogation (Sura 2:106), another verse declares:  "
No change can there be in the words of God" (Sura 10:64)!

If the Qur'an really was 'eternal' why would it contain so many words dealing with trivial temporal issues that existed among Muhammad's own family and fellow Muslims? The Suras include a curse against Muhammad's uncle (Sura 111), an admonition to Muhammad's wives to remain subject to him (Sura 33), and words against the elephant brigade of Abraha, the Christian ruler of Abyssinia, who had come up against the Muslims in Mecca (Sura 105).  The fact that the Qur'an contains material dealing directly with personal details in the life of Muhammad strongly suggests that it was actually Muhammad who composed the book rather than it being dictated to him by the 'angel Gabriel'.  The overall evidence points to the Qur'an being a man-made book.

The Unchanging God of the Bible

The God of the Bible gave clear revelation so His people could recognise when deceivers attempted to lead them astray and made it clear that His mind could not be changed like a man:

Hosea 11:9 'I will not execute my fierce anger, I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come to destroy.

Malachi 3:6  "For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.

James 1:17 'Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.'

The Bible makes it clear that death is the penalty for sin:

Romans 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

but there is a 100% certain and sure way to avoid going to Hell for eternity:

Romans 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

clearly no one ever pays for a gift, so we only have to thank God for this 'unspeakable gift' (
2 Corinthians 9:15):

Romans 5:8  But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. 9  Since, therefore, we are now justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10  For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by His life. 11  Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation. 12  Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned ...

Romans 10:9  because, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, YOU WILL BE SAVED.

WILL BE SAVED - not might be 'if your good works outweigh your bad' - and certainly not by sacrificing the lives of others by jihad suicide bombings or other murderous acts!

What is the practical difference between the faiths? Is loving one's enemies superior to hating and killing them, praying for them not clearly more righteous than cutting off their limbs, and turning the other cheek not clearly more Godly and righteous than murdering or crucifying them?  The darkness you recognise in the human heart is common to all people - Jews, Christians and Muslims are no exception - but all our prayers, sorrows, tears, and 'good' works could never undo the damage of iniquity and atone for our sins.  For that we needed a Perfect Saviour and only One Who is both God and Man could die in our place - the Just for the unjust!

The ugliness of war, coupled with human evil, contradicts Islam's message that people are born in a pure state and are basically good.  When you observe the darkness in your own heart and see it in others, or question why Muslims should want to get tiny children - many no more than 3 years old (watch Palestinian TV!) - to declare that Jews are 'apes and pigs' because their God 'said so' - do you not wonder how people capable of such overwhelming evil can claim that goodness is at their core and evil at the periphery (as Islam claims?).  Clearly, it is the other way around!

You write:  When the Quran mentions unbelivers [sic] and killing them, it is NOT referring to all Christians or Jews. Once again, a typical Christian "scholar" cherry picking the verses from the Qur'an to defend their stance.

TCE: should we rejoice that the Qur'an 'is NOT referring to [killing] all Christians or Jews'?!  It is true that some are kindly given the opportunity to pay the 50% kharaj land tax, or the jizyah 'protection money' tax ("Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission." - Sura 9:29), and live in subservience to their Muslim masters, as we have already written.  But many others were given the option of 'convert or die' - as the historical record clearly shows!  So, when you make the accusation: 'Once again, a typical Christian "scholar" cherry picking the verses from the Qur'an to defend their stance' you merely leave yourself open to even more justified criticism of the appalling nature of Islam.

More on Dhimmis - and Jizyah! 

There is, of course, Islamic history and tradition that explains the
jizyah ('protection money') verse:

"Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the
Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master."  (Bukhari:V4B53N386)

And the exact wording of the Qur'an makes it clear how this is to paid:  "... pay Aljiza with humiliation."

Clearly the intention was to degrade the
dhimmi, (aka thimmis) and designate to them a lower caste in the society.  how did this happen?  Imagine if any Western country made you stand in a humiliating public ceremony in the course of which, as a non-believing tax-paying dhimmi, you were physically struck in the act of paying your tax - as happened in many Muslim controlled lands.  The document confirming you had paid would then be placed round your neck to be worn in public continually as an identifying mark of dishonour but would enable you to travel to other Islamic-controlled areas or countries - suffering continual abuse from Muslims, of course, but avoiding paying further tax for that year! 

Umar (aka Omar), the second caliph, was known for the Omar covenant which expressed such hostility toward Christians and Jews:

The necks of
thimmis (Jews and Christians) are to be sealed when collecting the Jezzieh (tax imposed on Jews and Christians). The method of sealing is to bind the necks of the person with a collar. In it is a piece of lead, stamped with the amount of his payment. The collar is not to be broken until the payment is completed. This is in accordance to the Qur'anic verse 'Until they pay the Jezzieh by an upper hand, may they be subjugated (humiliated)'... And if the person was a Jew, he must wear on his shoulder a red or yellow banner, so he is recognized as a Jew.  And if the person is a Christian, he needs to wear harsh clothes, with a large pocket in the chest area like women.  As for Christian women, they must wear shoes with different colors, one black and the other white.  And if a Jew or a Christian goes into a public bath, he must wear an iron, copper, or lead-made collar around his neck, so he can be identified from Muslims. Never a Jew or a Christian can build houses higher than a Muslim. They are not to crowd public roads but need to use narrow alley ways and small streets. They are not to be saluted, nor can their graves be extended beyond the surface of the ground.  (The Omar Covenant, Faqeeh Al-Muluk, Volume 2, pp.  124-136)

Another tradition, that is continued to this day in Islamic countries (e.g. Egypt) and regularly reported on by 'persecution watch' organisations, is the prevention of
thimmis from renovating their churches and synagogues, even when those sacred places need maintenance for safety reasons.  This is coupled with specific 'building regulations' that allow mosques to be constructed and legally legislated with local and government authorities while preventing the similar construction, positioning, and legislation of thimmis buildings of worship!

The ultimate aim is clearly to make life miserable for the
thimmis and force them into conversion.  But, worse, non-thimmis - who could not or would not pay the tax - were summarily executed.  If you were lucky you would be beheaded, but many were crucified or died by similarly horrendous tortures.

Should we be glad that, as
thimmis, at least we wouldn't be killed, unlike the thousands who wouldn't convert to Islam and were murdered when Islamic armies invaded (see our page)?

Dawah and Jihad

Muhammad was clearly consumed by a deep sense of
dawah (propagation of the faith by calling people to embrace Islam) and his unquenchable zeal for spreading Islam has left a lasting influence upon his followers.  Among the many uses of the term dawah in the Qur'an the one with the most potent and far-reaching implications in connection with the external mission of promulgating Islam is the concept of jihad (Sura 8:74,75; 9:44).  From the beginning, dawah was associated with military conquest, the justification for which is clearly laid down in the Qur'an (2:69; 2:190; 2:217; 2:256; 3:103; 8:39; 8:61-62; 25:52; 61:9).  Thus, the importance of the propagation of Islam was ingrained in the consciousness of Muslims by the sword as well as the word and was therefore not a matter of choice, but an integral part of spreading Islam for devout Muslims.

Anyone trying to claim the Prophet of Islam never taught or encouraged spreading Islam by the sword should note that the
hadith tells us that Muhammad's own soul yearned for martyrdom for the cause of Islam. Abu Hurrairah, a companion of the prophet and respected traditionalist said, 'I heard the prophet say: "I would not remain behind an army that fights in the way of Allah … I love that I should be killed in the way of Allah then brought to life, then killed again, then brought to life, then killed again"  (ref.  Muhammad Ali, A Manual of Hadith, NY, Olive Branch Press, 1977, pp. 261-2).

Ibn Umar quotes Muhammad as saying: 'I have been commanded that I should fight these people [non-Muslims] till they bear witness that there is no god but Allah and keep up the prayer and pay Zakat (i.e. charitable giving, alms). When they do this, their blood and their property shall be safe with me except as Islam requires, and their reckoning is with Allah'' (
ibid.  p.265)

Other quotes from the Hadith include these thoughts or actions:

Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
(Al-Bukhari, 9:17)

Narrated Ali: "Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection. (Al-Bukhari volume 9:64)

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say:  'None has the right to be worshiped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."
(Al-Bukhari 1:387).

Muhammad said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshiped but Allah."
(Al-Bukhari 4:196)

Muhammad also said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of the swords."
(Al-Bukhari 4:73)

Muhammad said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
(Al-Bukhari 9:57)

Muhammad said, "No Muslim should be killed ... for killing a Kafir (infidel)."
(Al-Bukhari 9:50)

Muhammad said to the Jews "The earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land (the Arabian Peninsula), so, if anyone owns property, he is permitted to sell it. "
(Al-Bukhari 4:392)

Muhammad's last words were: "Turn the pagans (non-Muslims) out of the Arabian Peninsula."
(Al-Bukhari 5:716)

Muhammad once was asked: What is the best deed for the Muslim next to believing in Allah and His Apostle? His answer was : "To participate in Jihad in Allah's cause."
(Al-Bukhari 1:25)

Muhammad was quoted as saying, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshiped but Allah." (
Al-Bukhari 4:196)

Muhammad also said, "The person who participates in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed)."
(Al-Bukhari 1:35)

It is clearly impossible for you to try and reconcile the idea of
jihad with the command in the Qur'an that: 'There is no compulsion in religion' (2:190).  The idea of jihad as a literal warring, physical struggle against the enemies of Islam is clearly regarded as normal among the increasing number of fundamentalists who are actively calling for the religion to go 'back to the fundamentals'(ar. usuliyah - ref. Shi'ite sect in Iran which paved way for Ayatollah Khomeini and his fundamentalist binding use of fatwa).

(Continued on page 432)

Topics discussed on pages responding to Muslims
Section 1-36:

Muhammad the Comforter? (1) (2)

Christians hate Muslims!

Prejudice against Islam? (1) (2)

Is the Holy Spirit a Person?

Ahmed Deedat's debates!

Jesus - Begotten not created!

Jesus - 'My Lord and My God'!

Christ - God and Saviour

The Bible or the Koran?

Qur'anic Mistakes (1) (2)

Mistakes About the Trinity

Mistakes About the "Son" of God

Accuracy of the Bible vs. Qur'an

Sword of Islam

Trinity and the Father

Atonement before Adoption

Justification entirely by Grace

Law versus Grace

Begotten not created!

Was Jesus Crucified?

Sin and the Atonement

The Christian view of Sin

The Character of Sin

The Conditions Required


The Person Required

Only the Son of God

The Mode of Death

Holiness Through Jesus' Sacrifice

The Conditions Fulfilled

Atonement not At-one-ment

Only Jesus brings Peace with God

Islam, Christians and Jews

Islamic jihad worldwide

Slavery Today!

Who are the real terrorists?!

Deaths caused by Secular Wars

Who dropped the Atomic Bomb?

The Origin of Nazi Ideals?

'Kill the Jews' - Quotes

Islamic Links to the Nazis

Muhammad took Mecca peacefully!

Details about Jesus unimportant!

'The Trinity' cultic revisitation

What makes Islam so evil?

Crusade-like ... leads to hell

Accuracy of the Qur'an? (2)

Importance of Hadith Literature?

Eternal Destiny, Sin and Death

Holy Jehovah or 'Deceiver' Allah?

Contradictions of 'The Deceiver'

Contradictions in other Suras

'The Night of Power'

Predestination to Damnation

One Muslim's Despair

What Islam Says About Zinaa

Contrary to Qur'anic teaching

Nonsense of 'Abrogation'

The Unchanging God of the Bible

More on Dhimmis - and Jizyah!

Dawah and Jihad

Following Muhammad's Example

'Jesus ... Violence and Swords!?'

Old Testament - 'God's Holy War'!

Miracles and Islamic Conquests?

Hadith Accounts of Miracles

Biblical Tests expose Muhammad!

Those 'Satanic Verses'

Moses - a true predictive prophet

Moses proves veracity of Gospel

Muhammad supported Polytheism!

Jehovah's Judgement vs. Allah's

Joshua's "Ethnic Cleansing"!

The Peaceful 'Sword of the Spirit'

Christ Revered in the Qur'an?!

Science and the Qur'an!

Qur'an - sun sets in muddy spring!

Illiteracy of Muhammad?

Origins of the Qur'an?

Islam not as evil as depicted!

The Bible exposes Muhammad!

Muhammad - Christ's Successor?!

Qur'an and Bible - same origin?

Muhammad's lying permitted!

The 'Moon God Theory'

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