'Replies from Word-Faith'

Ian Reynolds - 15

27th October, 2006

From: Ian Reynolds
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:38 PM
Subject: What in hell do you want!

All the Godly people you mention on your site have made valuble [
sic] contributions to the Christian Faith, and have brought thousands in to the Kingdom.

What your site proclaims is blasphemy in God`s eyes. You are saying that Jesus`s teachings on faith are incorrect. The fact you are condeming [
sic] other Christian is an abomination to God. Unfortunately you are one of the 7 kinds of people God can not save [John Hagee Series].


We have not 'condemned' Christians - we have warned of the danger of following soul-destroying heretics and their heresies!

TCE replies: 28th October 2006

Dear Ian

thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Unfortunately you failed to supply more than a hint at what you are complaining about.

We mention many godly people who have certainly 'made valuble [
sic] contributions to the Christian Faith, and have brought thousands in to the Kingdom'.

We also mention many heretics who have deceived and led astray 'thousands'.

You mention 'blasphemy' without providing any evidence, but also accuse us of 'saying that Jesus`s teachings on faith are incorrect'.

Are you referring to the interpretation of  'faith' from a 'Word-Faith' viewpoint?

If so, you are simply mistaken in your beliefs in accepting their heretical view which is far removed from the Biblical faith taught by our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.

A 'Word-Faith pastor' in the USA (Jeff Schrick) recently sent us a long e-mail supposedly pointing out where his heretical view was to be found in the Bible.  We wrote an extensive refutation which he received and promised to study.  This was in May-June 2006 and we have still heard nothing further from him.  We will, in due course, be posting this dialogue on our WebPages and could supply you with a copy now, if you are interested, or answer your concerns if they lie in another direction.

Nowhere have we 'condemned' Christians, but we have warned of the danger of following soul-destroying heretics and their heresies.

These people have published materials and distributed them widely to individuals and churches across the world. We merely analyze their published or recorded words in obedience to the Word of God.  Material that is distributed publicly, written or verbal, should be analyzed publicly as we have shown on
this page.

Here are some of the Scriptures that give us authority for this practice:

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21).

"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (2 Timothy 4:2).

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11).

"These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee" (Titus 2:15).

"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 3).

Yet again a 'Word-Faith' adherent fails to refute our replies to their teachers errors and follows their example with a blatant ad hominem attack!

While you are clearly upset about our writings, instead of explaining our alleged error carefully from the Bible, you charge us with 'blasphemy', 'incorrect' teachings, and of being 'unsaveable'.

If you read any of our refutations of error you will note that it is not just members of clearly pseudo-Christian (and other) cults that cannot answer our refutations, but those who claim to be preaching Christian truth, such as the 'Word-Faith' teachers.  Why do you think this is?  Paul was inspired to put it perfectly (1 Corinthians 2v1-5):

1   And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3  And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4  And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5  That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Any mature Christian worth their salt should be able to reply in the manner of 1 Peter 3v8-17 (see our HomePage) but you exclaim: 'What in hell do you want!'  Do you speak to your mother like that?

Why don't you test us by examining, for example, the 'faith' question you challenge us over (presumably!) instead of revealing your very un-Scriptural judgmental attitude which only condemns?

By the way, if you are quoting from the John Hagee Series written by the man who - according to
this Wikipedia page:

'In 1989 ... received an honorary doctorate from Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma.[9] In 2005, he received another honorary doctorate from Netanya Academic College in Israel.[10] Hagee served on the
Oral Roberts University Board of Regents from 1989 to January 2008.[7] ... In 1960, he married Martha Downing. They had two children: John Christopher and Tish. In 1966 Hagee founded the Trinity Church in San Antonio, Texas. Hagee resigned as senior pastor of Trinity Church in May 1975. He also divorced his first wife Martha Downing in 1975. In 1976 Hagee married Diana Castro. They have three children: Cristina, Matthew and Sandy... The Christian Research Institute (among others) has strongly criticized Hagee's 2007 book, In Defense of Israel, for apparently arguing that Jesus did not claim to be the Messiah for the Jews, only the Savior for the Christian Church, and therefore, that attempts should not be made to convert Jews.[18] Hagee issued a statement denying the first of these allegations and promises to revise one chapter in a new edition to make his views clearer.'

then you are quoting a man who is associated with the 'Word-Faith' heretic, Oral Roberts, clearly despises the Words of the Lord Jesus Christ when divorce is an issue, and has been rightly criticized by a recognised Christian apologetics ministry - 'The Christian Research Institute (among others)' - for another seriously flawed, un-Biblical, view.  Other views on Wikipedia reveal a man caught in many other contradictions and the good things he has done - such as criticizing the Papal Roman Catholic Cult for her clearly un-Biblical nature and blatant hatred of true Bible-believers - he seems prone to quickly undo when pressured!

If you want to clarify your views we will willingly respond.

Sincerely in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.

We will be praying God's blessing for you, Ian.



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