'Miscellaneous Questions'

5 - K. Sean Proudler

18th October 2011

Received: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:49 AM
Subject: Bible Codes


Is it possible that there are 'TRUE BIBLE CODES'?


To 'The Christian Expositor':

Concerning your coverage of, and rejection of, " BIBLE CODES ", it is to be noted that a character known as Satan exists.  Satan's goal is to keep people away from the truth by directing them away from it long before they could directly encounter it.

If the truth had been met, then one can not be deceived by Satan into accepting something else other than this particular truth.  Thus he must make his move and deceive mankind long before mankind begins to approach any truth of importance.

Thus if there are any " TRUE BIBLE CODES " to be exposed at some time, he must convince people to behave like absolute idiots such that the " TRUE BIBLE CODES " are completely rejected even before having been inspected.

If someone who speaks English suddenly decides to learn Japanese, and such a person once having done so says that he has now learnt ALL languages, this person would be regarded as a deranged person. ALL languages are not the same as Japanese !

If during world war two, spies were sending encoded information to their home country, via basic code encryptions, and this method was soon scrapped due to the fact that such a basic code language could be broken in a short time period, more sophisticated dynamic code languages would
[sic] developed instead, along with even more advanced dynamic code languages developed further down the road.

Now if someone said, during the period of the development of the first basic code encryption language, that since this code language could be broken so easily, this meant that all other code languages that may exist further down the road, are therefore also just as useless, then this person would be regarded as being a deranged person. ALL code languages are not the same !

Thus if one specific Bible Code Language was examined, and eventually was rejected by a many a
[sic]  people, and a person then said that ALL Bible Code languages, despite not having even been inspected yet, are therefore also to be rejected, then this person should be regarded as being an extremely deranged person. ALL code languages are not the same !

But despite this obviousness, many people proceeded to behave in this deranged manner when it came to the subject of Bible Codes.

They even classified this one specific Bible Code Language as "Bible Codes", period. Thus this one specific Bible Code Language speaks for all others, is what they had implied, but did so in such a crafty manner that it gave the impression that this one specific Bible Code Language, which was eventually rejected, was the one and ONLY Bible Code language.

And so Satan made absolute fools of so many many many people.  Has Satan got you under his thumb?

Basically, concerning Bible Codes, he convinced people that one can read an entire book by merely looking at nothing but the cover, thus meaning one is able to see an absolute entirety
[sic] as soon as one has just barely begun to explore the vast rage [sic] of Bible Code possibilities.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm
http://www.outersecrets.com/real/download.htm

Check the above web pages.
Download the 2 free bible code DVD ISO files and see what the deranged have been ignoring.

Enjoy.
K. Sean Proudler

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TCE replies: 25th December, 2011 3.03pm

Dear K. Sean Proudler

thank you for taking the time to e-mail us.

As made clear on our home page, we no longer respond to all e-mails due to other initiatives (and the very common nature of the attempted 'counters' from respondents).

Your mail is currently at the end of a lengthy queue, but will be answered to some degree in the next 4-12 weeks.

Please note that our reply will depend on the clarity and nature of your questions, queries, or material - AND THAT, IN PARTICULAR, WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO FOLLOW CHAINS OF LINKS TO OTHER WEBSITES (ref. 'Please read this before e-mailing' on our home page).

Furthermore, continuing correspondence will also depend on the nature of your response to our first reply.

So this also means that any further mail sent by you to us will also only receive an answer if you have responded adequately to our first reply.

This is to prevent our time being wasted by those who think they can load us with repeated and (often) fatuous or pointless questions while they fail to answer our responses to their early questions.

We therefore seek your patience and understanding in the interests of the truth that leads to eternal life: (Titus 1:2) 'In hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised before the world began'.

In the Name of the One True God - Father, Son and Holy Spirit,

TCE

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TCE replies: 11th January, 2012

Flaws in reasoning lead to rejection of 'Bible Codes'!


Dear K. Sean Proudler

thank you for taking the time to contact us.

We will not waste time repeating the logical explanations already given on
previous pages which clearly explain why the 'codes' claimed to exist in the Bible fail Scriptural tests.

Note the obvious flaws in your reasoning which begin with the same mistake accepted by 'charismaniacs' in much of the contemporary
ekklesia ('church') who argue in the same manner for the extra-Biblical 'gifts of the Spirit.'

These leaders argue that 'just because every gift is not clearly enunciated in the Bible does not mean that God cannot do a 'New Thing' in these 'Last Days.'  Thus the obvious result is that anyone claiming to have a 'New Gift' can have their phenomena accepted as being from the Holy Spirit - and the result is the plethora of occult phenomena observed in such 'charismatic' gatherings - from levitation to grovelling and writhing like snakes, or thrashing and howling and wailing like animals - or
demons!

God has given us clear Scriptural tests to determine the truth!


Obviously, if God gives us clear Scriptural tests to determine the truth (cf.  Acts 17v11; 1 Thess. 5v19-22 etc.)  and we ignore them, we are adding to God's Word and then in danger of accepting the lies of Satan as extra-Biblical truth.

Your first paragraph - 'Satan's goal is to keep people away from the truth by directing them away from it long before they could directly encounter it' - accuses God of being so remiss that He failed to give warnings to Adam and Eve about who to believe.  But the truth is that He clearly warned them
from the beginning of their existence that following the truth He had already revealed was the only way (Genesis 3v1-24):

'Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
hath God said, Ye shall not eat of any tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat: but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig-leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of Jehovah God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of Jehovah God amongst the trees of the garden'.

The truth is made clear from the very outset of history - God has given every instruction necessary for man to remain safe and all we ever needed to do, right from the first Adam, was to be obedient to that instruction.

But you claim: 'If the truth had been met, then one can not be deceived by Satan into accepting something else other than this particular truth.  Thus he must make his move and deceive mankind long before mankind begins to approach any truth of importance.'

Since 'any truth of importance' has already been given before Satan's first recorded 'move' we know that God will always be well ahead of the 'father of lies' and no 'truth' will remain hidden  to be 'discovered' at the End of the Age - whether you believe it is here now, or close at hand.  To claim otherwise is to make the ludicrous inference that only a recently discovered 'truth' about 'Codes' could protect us from deception and, if that were true, then God has 'lied' to us and made it impossible for us to make the correct choice from the time of Adam to now - and that would put us in a position similar to that invented by the Mormon deceiver, Joseph Smith, who created a system that made 'the fall' a 'fall upward'!

Thus your speculation that 'if there are any " TRUE BIBLE CODES " to be exposed at some time, he must convince people to behave like absolute idiots such that the " TRUE BIBLE CODES " are completely rejected even before having been inspected' is found to be as 'idiotic' as the charismanic claims for 'newly discovered gifts of the Spirit' or the Mormon cults' reversal of the true reason for the state of man - a sinful state that could only be rescued by the Sacrifice at Calvary of the Lord Jesus Christ.

You have fallen into the elementary error of accepting supposed human 'wisdom' and uninspired 'reasoning' - which is not even logical or close to being Biblical - as your reasons for accepting 'Bible Codes'.  The destructive effects of listening to other voices rather than listening to God are clearly expressed in Scripture:

'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils...' (1 Tim. 4:1).

It was for good reason that Paul was inspired to write:
'For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears' (Acts 20:29-31).

All too often man would rather hear what he has conjured up, or what some 'teacher/leader' has presented and persuaded to be truth, rather than what God clearly says to us in His Word.  It is also true that our inclination is to accept what some 'authority' tells us God has said, and what He means by it, rather than to search the Scriptures for ourselves.  Man has a long history of seeking second opinions. Even before sin impacted mankind, Eve was seduced by such a penchant: listening both to someone who spoke with authority and to her own rationalizations.  The serpent's words to Eve in the Garden of Eden had two such enticements.  First, there was an authoritarian challenge to God's Word: 'Yea,
hath God said...?' To this was added a convincing contradiction regarding God's command:  '...Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil' (Genesis 3:1-5).  Eve liked what she heard.  She then entertained her own thoughts on the matter: 'And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat...' (Genesis 3:6).  Eve listened to Satan speaking and then completed the job with her own reasoning - the first example of Satan and 'self' working in a deadly combination and a partnership that is just as fatal today.

If 'Bible Codes' simply support what has already been discovered from reading the Word of God they cannot do serious harm - apart from being thoroughly illogical and damaging to our faith and trust in our Heavenly Father.  But, should they bring other doctrine, we are warned (Romans 16v17-18):

'Now I beseech you, brethren,
mark them that are causing the divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which ye learned: and turn away from them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent'.

Many contemporary heresies develop via Christian media and the religious airways which have become the chief vehicle for 'depart[ures] from the faith,' 'seducing spirits,' 'doctrines of demons,' and 'perverse things.'  Consequently, many Christians take in doctrinal aberrations from the Christian media (TV, Internet, books, magazines, video and audio tapes, newsletters, pamphlets and tracts etc.) and assume that it is consistent with the Bible, while any 'shepherd' they may consult shares similar liberal views or has no heart for 'earnestly contend[ing] for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints' (Jude 3).

Though pastors and others in leadership positions may fail to act upon or teach the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:4 ('Take heed that no man deceive you'), nevertheless every believer is personally accountable to the Lord to obey His command and check that every aspect of their walk with Jesus is not lacking in any way by:

1) Realizing that the Word of God is just that - the Word of God - and nothing that man has to offer can either improve upon it or add anything essential (Isaiah 55v8-9).
2) Understanding that the Holy Spirit is our teacher (John 16v13), and He alone can reveal the Word of God.
3) Filling our hearts and minds with the content of the Scriptures, immersing ourselves again and again so that the pure, living waters of God's truth wash out the pollution of worldly thoughts and erroneous teachings.
4) Testing every teacher as the Bereans did (Acts 17v10-11), for steadfastness in the faith is not a product of learning from a human teacher - no matter how Biblically true his teachings may be - and real confidence in what one believes comes from directly knowing and living what the Bible teaches, through the illumination and power of the Holy Spirit.
5) Spending more time in fellowship with the Lord, getting to know Him increasingly well through reading His Word, rather than spending time listening to men talk or teach about Him for, next to personal time with Jesus, fellowship centred around studying the Word of God is the best experience anyone can have to grow closer to the Lord.

Bible studies, home fellowships, Sunday-school classes - and any form of study of the Saviour God consistent with His Word - need to be constantly evaluated. Even the best Bible study can slip away from its original intent or fruitfulness. The Scriptures, first and foremost, reveal what God wants us to know about Him. Do we leave each study or class knowing Him better?  Too many studies begin with the Scriptures but then quickly became a gossip session of personal experiences, what a favourite author teaches, or one's own subjective feelings about what the Word says.  Encouraging input which focuses on using other Scriptures to help explain verses we are trying to understand - rather than pursuing our own ideas, or what someone else has said - is the way to grow in knowledge of what God wants you to know.  Scripture should interpret scripture. 

We should beware lest the opinions of so-called authorities, would-be experts, dream interpreters, and 'Bible Code' speculators, are given more time and honour than the clear, inspired writings of the prophets and apostles.  More time is spent on man and his problems than is spent on getting to know the person, the characteristics, and the commands (John 14v15) of Jesus Christ.  It's amazing how the world's ways seep into the
ekklesia ('church'), even when we think we're not of the world - the world goes after the 'Da Vinci Code' and the ekklesia ('church') goes after 'Bible Codes'!  Though today's apostasy may seem overwhelming at times, the good news is that God's grace is sufficient to keep us on course with Him. While we are assaulted by a deluge of un-Biblical deception and delusion which threatens to sweep away the fruitfulness we can have in Christ, His grace is readily available to cause that river of living water to flow from our innermost being as He promised (John 7v38).  The way given by God to those who believe in Him is that they will desire His Word through the Comforting Teaching of the Holy Spirit who will cause the Word to flood the sincere heart and mind continually.  That's the sure way to know and follow Jesus and the essence of what Jesus tells us in John 8v31:  'If ye continue in my Word, then are ye my disciples indeed.'

Extra-Biblical 'practices' are to be rejected whether from the 'Church Fathers', 'Bible Codes' - or any other source!


Let us apply your logic in the manner of a known deception - in this case Mormonism.  You write: 'If someone who speaks English suddenly decides to learn Japanese, and such a person once having done so says that he has now learnt ALL languages, this person would be regarded as a deranged person. ALL languages are not the same as Japanese !'

Mormons use your argument to insist that the Bible is not just corrupt, but insufficient on its own to know all the truth that God wants to impart to us.  Their founder, Joseph Smith, claimed that the Lord said to (an invented character called) Nephi that in 'the Last Days', many would say, 'A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be anymore Bible.' The Mormons contend that, to them, the Lord responded: 'What do the Gentiles mean?  Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the [Jewish prophets], and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto [them]?' (2 Nephi 29v3-4 - Book of Mormon)

Whatever edifices we turn to, whether amazingly artistic, architectural, scientific, or intellectually impressive, if what they reflect is contrary to God's Word (Ephesians 5:6-12; 2 Corinthians 6:14-17) then we are to reject them.  Whether 'practices' are inherited from the so-called 'Church Fathers,' Roman Catholic 'tradition', or recent developments such as 'Codes', if they are not from God but from human 'wisdom', occult practices from 'mystical religions', or directly from seducing spirits or doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1), they are not to be indulged in by Christians.

Paul and the other writers of the New Testament gave us God's Word rather than the mixed teachings of the 'Church Fathers.'  It is to the Scriptures that we must look, especially since Paul warned that in his time there were already false brethren who would do damage to the body of Christ.  Basing our spiritual life on anything that exchanges (by 'adding to' or 'subtracting from') the 'more sure word of prophecy' for the shifting sands of human opinion, or even occult methods, will lead us into dangerous territories:

Revelation 22v18-19: 'I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book'.

The question to be asked is always 'What do the Scriptures say':

'This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success' (Joshua 1:8).

Paul's admonition to 'prove [test] all things; hold fast that which is good' (1 Thess. 5v21) is a testing made from the unfailing Word of God (2 Tim. 2:15) and the theme found throughout Scripture.

That men should attempt to use their own reason to interpret Scripture is easily discovered by those who rely on the Holy Spirit to guide them in true exegesis and hermeneutics while the History of the
Ekklesia ('Church') reveals many 'doctrinal systems' that were exposed and refuted one by one, whether it was Arius or one of the many other 'isms' that come and go (many merely 'warmed over' and re-hashed by one of the contemporary cults).

When you write about 'encoded information ... encryptions ... more sophisticated dynamic code languages ...' you are presumably insisting on their appearance in the Bible despite all the evidence and the clear statements we have already made (see
earlier page reference)?

How do 'Bible Codes' fare when logical questions are asked?


What happens if we ask a few logical questions, e.g:

  • Do your 'Codes' just confirm some of the truths already revealed by the straightforward interpretation and reading of known languages - if so, what is their great importance?
  • Can you give us one example of a great truth revealed by 'Codes' that was not already known by the many saints who have diligently pursued the truth that God revealed to men through His incomparable Word?
  • If genuine, these 'Codes' must have been present from the initial construction of the Word of God and must therefore 'work' in Hebrew and Greek as well as English and every other language devised by man that the Word might be translated into!
  • If the 'Codes' are not available in the original languages - as well as all languages that they are translated into - then we must ask why God would allow only a select 'few' to have this additional 'witness'?
  • Even if the 'Codes' were in God's Word from 'the beginning' what would be the purpose of an esoteric system that only a few could access compared to the spoken and written Word that is Universal and which even 'sign languages' can interpret?

The arguments debunking the claims for 'Bible Codes' already postulated hold firm unless one is found that passes all the tests already elucidated and actually deliver some information vital to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ that is not already known, or which reaches people who could not be reached by reading - or hearing the Bible read (or 'signed') - in their recognised language or method of communication.  Perhaps your 'Codes' reach a small number of people who are not 'reached' by any 'normal' communication methods?  They would still be of fairly limited use for obvious reasons.

But if connections that have no clear instructional value are discovered (as discussed on our pages), or are only found 'retrospectively', it is inevitable that we should wisely suspect that an ulterior motive exists.  Why, for example, would anyone include 'Prophet Sean' in their exposition (as you do on your web pages) - unless such a 'prophet' has actually prophesied something of significance that passes strict Biblical tests? 

Rather than following the Scriptural admonition of 1 Peter 3v15-18 ('... sanctify in your hearts Christ as Lord: being ready always to give answer to every man that asketh you a reason concerning the hope that is in you, yet with meekness and fear: having a good conscience; that, wherein ye are spoken against, they may be put to shame who revile your good manner of life in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God should so will, that ye suffer for well-doing than for evil-doing. Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit ...') you choose to hurl insults at those who haven't embraced the 'Codes', e.g.: 'absolute idiots ... deranged ... crafty ... absolute fools'.  This is a very predictable and common ploy utilised by those who need to convince themselves, as much as those they desire to mislead, that they are privy to a unique Gnosis not available to the inferior creatures who do not accept their claims.

Why else would you declare yourself 'Prophet Sean' and make the statements posed, such as 'JESUS/SEAN, THE ONE TRUE PROPHET?'

The view you take leads you to make the palpably arrogant statement: 'Basically, concerning Bible Codes, he convinced people that one can read an entire book by merely looking at nothing but the cover, thus meaning one is able to see an absolute entirety as soon as one has just barely begun to explore the vast rage [
sic] of Bible Code possibilities.'

No truly orthodox Christian would ever lead anyone to think that '(concerning Bible Codes) [or any part of God's Word!], he [Satan!] convinced people that one can read an entire book by merely looking at nothing but the cover' - and this also smacks of the occult of the 'automatic writing' variety - so for you to make this statement is to attempt to attribute the most ludicrously idiotic thoughts and words to those who do not agree with you.

If your birth date is really that stated on your recommended page perhaps you should consider using a more humble approach and a more mature gibe than 'enjoy' - especially as you have so little to really 'enjoy' in your self-congratulatory world that raises 'Bible Codes' to a level that cannot be supported by facts and logic or the Word of God.

In Christ Jesus


TCE

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Should we be surprised that extra-Biblical 'BIBLE CODES' have their origin in anti-Christ works?


K. Sean Proudler replies: 11th January, 2012
Well that was not the response that I was hoping for.

I'll give you a hint as to whom
[sic] I am.  It is I [sic] that placed the codes within the Bible.

Still no go? How about this then...  I lied
[sic] in my own blood for 2 1/2 days [sic] before my eyes opened once more.

I know....I know.... you think that I
[sic] just some crazy fellow, thus you reject before inspect [sic] , just as have all others for the last ten years.

Ten years have passed, and each person that I spoke to, directly or indirectly, placed the value of beliefs above the value of truths.

Still no go? OK...How about this then... Matthew 24-23  "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it."

What this means, by the way, is....  "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, he is definitely NOT the Christ!' or 'There he is not!' do not believe it."

Your previous response was the typical instantaneous act of rejection. And that is why we have been stuck in a rut for ten miserable years now.

Over 2 million decent respectable innocent people have died as the consequence of this ongoing instantaneous rejection of truth.


http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2a.htm
http://www.outersecrets.com/real/download.htm

Check the above web pages.  Download the 2 free bible code DVD ISO files and see for yourself what has been ignored.

Or twiddle your thumbs forever.   It's up to you.

As long as the religious community rejects the truth, and thus remain blind, no one shall see me.


Yours truthfully

K. Sean Proudler, AKA J.C.


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Should we be surprised that extra-Biblical 'BIBLE CODES' have their origin in anti-Christ works?


TCE replies: 13th January, 2012

Dear K. Sean Proudler,

it would indeed be better for you if you were just a 'crazy fellow' for then you would have an excuse.

Your reply is littered with many obvious flaws (note the many times we had to insert
[sic] for example - hasn't it crossed your mind that the Lord Jesus Christ would never make a single mistake of any kind?!) that easily prove that you are in the company of many other deceivers who failed to achieve the absolute basics necessary to buttress their inflated claims!

These would stand alone as testimony against you - even ignoring the fact that you fail to make any kind of coherent response to our clear refutation of your claims.

Your e-mails will almost certainly find a place on our site in due time as yet another warning against those who would dabble in extra-Biblical 'activities.'  Doubtlessly, even the most naïve, immature, genuine Christian will easily spot your flaws and thus your work will serve as a basic aid in discerning deception.

We no longer have the time to correct the many mistakes of deceivers who contact us so we have just high-lighted in red your other obviously moronic errors and will just correct your one attempt to use the Word of God (which you foolishly claim to be!):

'Still no go? OK...How about this then... Matthew 24-23  "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it."

What this means, by the way, is....  "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, he is definitely NOT the Christ!' or 'There he is not!' do not believe it."


Your attempt to adjust Matthew 24:23 (KJV) - 'Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not' - fails miserably and the translation from the Greek is irrefutable!

Verse 24 tells us that 'false Christ's (
Greek: ψευδóχριστος - pseudóchristos, pronounced psyoo-dokh'-ris-tos means a false Messiah/a false Christ) and false prophets' SHALL ARISE and convince many through 'great signs and wonders' that will be so convincing that 'if possible, they shall deceive the very elect'.

A bigger problem for false Christ's is the clear warning:

Matthew 24:26-31 (KJV) - Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The return of the Lord Jesus Christ will be so loud and accompanied with such obvious signs that no one can fail to notice His return!

Note how this is also totally consistent with this promise:

Acts 1:10-11 (KJV) - And
while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

So the Lord Jesus Christ will not be missed by anyone who is alert to all the signs of His return that He gave before He finally left His disciples after the many post-resurrection appearances!

So your claim that a '
typical instantaneous act of rejection' has caused 'Over 2 million decent respectable innocent people [to] have died as the consequence of this ongoing instantaneous rejection of truth' is another obvious attempt at an 'Emperor's New Clothes' scam so typical of all deceivers.  And your claim for 'Over 2 million decent respectable innocent people' is also a typical anti-Christ manoeuvre!

There is nothing that is even slightly amusing about claiming to be 'aka J.C.' and only those deceived by such monstrous inventions as the 'god' of 'The Shack' will be taken in by your heresies.

In Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour God - may He have mercy on your soul!

TCE

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'Basically, concerning Bible Codes, he convinced people that one can read an entire book by merely looking at nothing but the cover, thus meaning one is able to see an absolute entirety [sic] as soon as one has just barely begun to explore the vast rage [sic] of Bible Code possibilities.'

TCE:  Note the obvious flaws in your reasoning which begin with the same mistake accepted by 'charismaniacs' in much of the contemporary (ekklesia) church who argue in the same manner for the extra-Biblical 'gifts of the Spirit.'

TCE:  Your reply is littered with many obvious flaws (note the many times we had to insert [sic] for example - hasn't it crossed your mind that the Lord Jesus Christ would never make a single mistake of any kind?!) that easily prove that you are in the company of many other deceivers who failed to achieve the absolute basics necessary to buttress their inflated claims!

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