'Replies from Word-Faith'

Karen & Arnold Gerlock - 21

14th May, 2013

From: 'Karen'
Received: 14th May 2013
Re: 'Who are you?'


We are a non denominational … .

So. Who are you? Why are the articles not signed?

Where did you go to school, college, university, seminary and such?

How many expert authors do you have?

Your chart places the "word of faith" movement in the same groups as those that reject Jesus being the Christ, and offer another world view and or way to God or to be made righteous. Is there quotes in their writings that reject that Jesus alone is the Christ? Or say that he is "one of the ways" to God/heaven? Do they reject or deign that the Bible is the only text of writing that is the Word of God alone?

Of all Christian denominations what is the damnable heresy that is another gospel (there is no other name under heaven than the name of Jesus) casting the "word of faith" out the circle of the household of faith and no long a member or never was in the house hold of faith.

Yours in Christ Jesus,
Arnold Gerlock
5230 East 130th Court
Thornton, CO 80241

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TCE replies: 01 August 2013

Dear Karen (or Arnold?)

thank you for taking the time to e-mail us.

We apologise for the delay in responding but, as made clear on our home page, we no longer respond to all e-mails due to other initiatives (and the very common nature of the attempted 'counters' from respondents).

Your mail is currently at the end of a lengthy queue but, because of the nature of your enquiry, it will be answered fairly briefly in the next 1-4 weeks.

Please note that our reply depends on the clarity and nature of questions asked and other factors, such as the work load we are experiencing at this point in time.

Furthermore, continuing correspondence will also depend on the nature of any response to our first reply.

So this also means that any further mail sent by you to us will also only receive an answer if you have responded adequately to our first reply and under the conditions given above.

This is to prevent our time being wasted by those who think they can load us with repeated and (often) fatuous or pointless questions while they fail to answer our responses to their early questions, or who may simply wish to launch an
ad hominem attack and are clearly uninterested in genuine dialogue.

We therefore seek your patience and understanding in the interests of the truth that leads to eternal life:  (Titus 1:2)  'In hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised before the world began'.

In the Name of our Saviour God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,

TCE

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Who are the people who write articles on 'The Christian Expositor' website?


TCE replies: 12th August 2013

Dear Karen (or Arnold?)

Again, we regret the delay in responding further earlier but this is as detailed as we have time for now:

You write:  'Who are you? Why are the articles not signed?'

TCE:  You may as well ask why the Word of God did not deign to tell us who wrote the 'letter to the Hebrews'?  The truth is important but individuals certainly aren't and only a few names appear on the site depending on the nature of the articles written. By that we mean that those writing articles on Islam would be foolish to reveal their names since history reveals that those who oppose Muhammad and his false religion are in very grave danger of arriving in an early grave.

You write:  'Where did you go to school, college, university, seminary and such?'

TCE:  Should we take more notice of 'mere' Fisherman Peter, Doctor Luke, or Theologian & Rabbi Paul?  The importance is the Word they brought and our duty is to convey those truths as accurately as we can and never seek less than 100% accuracy.

You write:  'How many expert authors do you have?'

TCE:  How would you judge an 'expert'? In point 2 - above - all of these men, regardless of 'credentials', may be considered to be equally expert when writing under inspiration, but even the apostle Peter implied that Paul was superior in some aspects of the faith:

2 Peter 3:15-16 -  'And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction'.

Peter's behaviour, for which he was reprimanded by Paul (Galatians 2:11-14), bears out such a distinction.

In our day who would you consider to be more of an 'expert' than another in theological matters?  Certainly we have writers who have put in a lifetime of study, some at theological institutions, but all have put in even more years in personal Bible study than they ever spent taking instruction.  If you took some of our work to approved 'experts' their comments would be varied, even if they considered themselves to be 'orthodox Biblical theologians'.  But those we have warned about would obviously take a very different view!  Be assured we seek only the approval of God and never men.

What are the most serious errors of the 'Word-Faith' heretics?!


Your comment on '
our chart' is presumably referring to our page 2 where, under the title 'Orthodox' Heretics - Deception in the Church', we placed the 'Word Faith' heretics.  You have read carelessly so you are incorrect that '[Y]our chart places the "word of faith" movement in the same groups as those that reject Jesus being the Christ, and offer another world view and/or way to God or to be made righteous.'

You need to look more closely at the doctrines of the 'Word Faith' heretics - particularly the fact that they prove to have 'another Jesus' (2 Cor. 11v4) and 'another gospel' (Gal. 1v6-9), their world view is outrageously un-Biblical, and they insult the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in the most blasphemous ways, denying the Sovereignty and Will of God and even declaring themselves to be 'little gods.'

We have finally published a large volume of our material written in response to e-mails (see
this page forward) and you will find that the grossness of the 'Word-Faith' deceivers is far more than our brief article reveals - and our reports prove, emphatically, that they are a cult!

Are these the only heresies that would identify 'Word-Faith' as a cult?


You write:  'Is there [sic] quotes in their writings that reject that Jesus alone is the Christ? Or say that he is "one of the ways" to God/heaven? Do they reject or deign that the Bible is the only text of writing that is the Word of God alone?  Do they reject or deign that the Bible is the only text of writing that is the Word of God alone?'

TCE:    Your questions would make it appear that these are the only heresies that are recognised by the Christian church?  This is clearly untrue and the Scriptural warnings we have listed (see 'Savage Wolves') give the clear examples of heretics and the circumstances under which they were named by the apostles - see under the heading:

72.  Beware those who try to make false doctrine a private matter - when Scripture makes it clear that it is always to be dealt with publicly


The crux of the matter with 'Word-Faith' is that they have invented 'another Jesus' (2 Cor. 11v4) and 'another gospel' (Gal. 1v6-9) in that:

the 'Word-Faith' Jesus is 'another Jesus' (2 Cor. 11v4) because, according to Ken Copeland, he (a mere sinful man) or one of the (sinful) thieves, could have died on the Cross of Calvary and achieved what the Lord Jesus Christ achieved!  They add extra-Biblical material in claiming that the Lord Jesus Christ was tortured in Hell by Satan and therefore they also have 'another gospel' (Gal. 1v6-9)!

The 'Word-Faith' habit of adding and taking away from the Bible by trying to redefine such important teachings as 'being in the will of God/seeking the will of God' will be found on our website in the future (see details given previously).

A fuller depiction of 'Word-Faith' blasphemies, heresies, and errors?!


For a thorough depiction of the extent of Ken Copeland (
et al) blasphemies and errors go to:

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/copeland/general.htm

and for Benny Hinn:

http://rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/hinn/general.htm

and Kenneth 'Dad' Hagin:

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/hagin/general.htm

Perhaps, in time, we will write an article on the many (known) 'pseudo-Christian' groups who began to spring up even before the Apostles had left the earth (such as the Nicolaitians).

You write:  'Of all Christian denominations what is the damnable heresy that is another gospel (there is no other name under heaven than the name of Jesus) casting the "word of faith" out the circle of the household of faith and no long a member or never was in the house hold of faith.'

TCE:   Your final paragraph is not very clear, but presumably you are referring to:

Galatians 1:6-9 (NASB) - 6  I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;  7  which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.  8  But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!  9  As we have said before, so I say again now,
if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! 

The heretical view of Jesus held by 'Word-Faith' teachers is one that their 'disciples' may struggle to discern because only their books, or careful listening to their tapes, will reveal what they really teach and believe.  Just as cults like the Mormons will present their Jesus to 'the ignorant and unstable' (2 Peter 3v16) with considerable success, so the 'Word-Faith' heretics are successful in fooling people into believing they also present a Biblical Jesus.

As we made clear above, Galatians 1:6-9 is not just dealing with a heresy that would deny that 'there is no other name under heaven than the name of Jesus' for salvation, but with all other false paths to salvation or false attributes of the Lord Jesus Christ, such as the early Arian heresy and Papal Rome's salvation by works plus an heretical form of grace!

We have emphatically refuted the major false doctrines of 'Word-Faith' in replies to e-mails and these are now found on the
menu on this opening page (or see top of this page - right-hand side) by clicking on the titles (also note that the main material is found on pages to 'Josephine Melrose' and 'Tom Wood' and 'Pastor Jeff Schrick').

In Christ Jesus

TCE

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